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Casinos: Slot machines - win amount normal?

Topic created on 11th Nov. 2022 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 22 | Views: 4,515
Error-in-Persona

Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 03:45 am CET#1
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Hello all,


i've been going to my local casino to gamble at regular intervals for a good year now

I mainly play slots (Book of Ra) on a bet between 0.20 and 0.50 cents


It is always the same pattern with me


I enter the Slot machine game, sit down at a machine, set my €0.20 by default and start playing. If I notice that the machine is running, I also raise it to 0.30, 0.40 or 0.50 cents

Now, in the year since I have been playing, I have only taken small winnings from the casino. The wins are mostly between €20 and €50
One time I managed to take home a €100 win
No matter on which bet level, no matter if 0,20 or 0,50 Cent. The wins always remain the same in the end. I hardly ever get out over 20-50 € win



However, if things go badly one evening, I lose between €500 and €700 on the same stake. With low stake you lose 200-300,00 € in one hour. The machine doesn't let you play, the machine eats. Mind you, I have never won the aforementioned losses!

To my questions

1. Is it normal in slots for the wins to be so sparse? The losses, on the other hand, exceed the wins by a factor of twenty to thirty?

2. Is it possible for the casino to lower the payout ratio of the machines before the game starts? In other words, can the casino trick the payout ratio?

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Anonym

Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 09:16 am CET#2
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Error-in-Persona wrote on 11/11/2022 at 03:45 PM
Hello all,

1. Is it normal in slots that the wins are so sparse? The losses, on the other hand, exceed the wins by a factor of twenty to thirty?

2. Is it possible for the casino to lower the payout ratio of the machines before the game starts? In other words, can the casino trick the payout ratio?

To 1)
It depends on the slot, the Variance plays a significant role. In Book of Ra, the average win is 30-50 times the bet. To achieve higher wins, you need full screens or fours of the premium symbols and these are very rare.

Some people gamble all their lives without ever getting a full screen from the explorer. I have only gotten a handful of full screens of the premium symbols in the past 10-12 years.

Re 2)
In the state casinos the RTP is always 90%
In the arcades there is an AQ between 60-70%, exact numbers are not familiar to me.

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RiverSong
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Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 01:20 pm CET#3
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Royal777 wrote on 11/11/2022 at 09:16: In the state casinos, the RTP is always 90%

is this an assumption or where can you read it? then they would have to have lowered the rtp considerably (or adjusted as they probably call it).

so the state casino would then but also no longer attractive enough and no longer worth a visit because at 90% rtp it runs then just as shitty as online, only frustration


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Anonym

Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 01:45 pm CET#4
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 11/11/2022 at 13:20
is this a guess or where can you read it? then they would have to have lowered the rtp considerably (or adjusted as i guess they call it).

thus, however, the state gaming bank would then also no longer attractive enough and no longer worth a visit because at 90% rtp it then runs just as shitty as online, only frustration



Anyway, 90% is the common opinion, yet the RTP can vary quite a bit.
Casino AQ
Slot game:
The payout ratio averages between 92% and 98% for many games.


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B****3

Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 02:08 pm CET#5
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What is a common opinion!?

These are again numbers from you that are only assumed!
I can not pay every time numbers spread here just because the Albanian next to me at the machine has told something !?!

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Anonym

Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 02:40 pm CET#6
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Blubbo33 wrote on 11/11/2022 at 2:08 pm: What is a common opinion!?

These are again numbers from you which are only assumed !
I can not yet every time numbers spread here just because the Albanian next to me at the machine something told !??

No young, you are wrong again. Firstly, I have given a source and secondly, it contains all the relevant information, for example, the RTP as well as the corresponding paragraph to the gambling treaty

Without exception, all casinos have an RTP of at least 90%

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RiverSong
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Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 03:24 pm CET#7
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Royal777 wrote on 11/11/2022 at 14:40: Without exception all casinos have a RTP of at least 90%

the common opinion is really not interested here --> above, however, have written,

In the state casinos, the RTP is always 90%

difference: because --> always <-- is called .... always equal to ... . so I was surprised. ok, if you can read it on the respective casino pages then I look myself. at that time they advertised with 96% to 98%. there has only interested no one because just often times fair wins were available and spielespass equally balanced.

as I said, at 90% in general, no sensible person would need to go there anymore

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gamble1
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Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 04:05 pm CET#8
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Royal777 wrote on 11/11/2022 at 09:16 AM

Re 1)
It depends on the slot, the Variance plays a significant role. In Book of Ra the average win is 30-50 times the bet. To get higher wins, you need full screens or fours of the premium symbols and these are very rare.

Some people gamble all their lives without ever getting a full screen from the explorer. I have only gotten a handful of full screens of the premium symbols in the past 10-12 years.

Re 2)
In the state casinos the RTP is always 90%
In the arcades there is an AQ between 60-70%, exact numbers are not familiar to me.

Strictly speaking, there is no specified RTP in arcades that was already abolished before TR4 and by the addition that the actual rebooking process is the gaming would apply if at all only to it and not to the designated as entertainment roller game since not even the gaming ordinance applies to it

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B****3

Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 05:15 pm CET#9
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gamble1 wrote on 11/11/2022 at 16:05

Strictly speaking there is no stated RTP in arcades that was abolished before TR4 and by adding that the actual rebooking process is the gambling it would only apply to that if at all and not to the reel play referred to as entertainment as it is not even subject to the gaming regulations

So someone has to explain this to me?

Royal777 writes something, you contradict him, he improves one and then he liked the next who also contradicts him! ?

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Anonym

Slot machines - win amount normal?

11th Nov. 2022, at 05:26 pm CET#10
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Blubbo33 wrote on 11/11/2022 at 17:15

So someone needs to explain this to me?

Royal777 writes something, you contradict him, he improves one and then he likes the next one who also contradicts him! ?

Acceptance is very important my dear

Although I had mentioned in the first post that there is an AQ in the arcade while in the casinos a RTP is available, however, gamble1 had once mentioned that he has worked as a technician / display in the arcades, at least I think I remember such a statement.

Based on his references, I trust him blindly when it comes to the discourse about the machines in arcades.

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