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Casinos: Manipulation of vending machines

Topic created on 17th Feb. 2022 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 24 | Views: 6,364
R3hab
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Manipulation of vending machines

17th Feb. 2022, at 07:22 pm CET#1
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Hello,

There is a lot of talk about rtp and the fact that you only lose
Here they have admitted that they manipulate the machines and that has nothing to do with luck

In Germany, this is exactly the same system, and since more and more state-owned casinos is privatized by Merkur, everything is only worse and they do what they want...

But look at the video
Find that just bad
"First we lure them into the casino, with raffles " haha and then you win on your first few visits
And then that's it😂😂😂

Just sick, their system is built on addicts and politics prevents the game protection which is only lari fari
As in Germany the same problem...

Here the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nxxjDW-9gU&t=14

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t****o

Manipulation of vending machines

17th Feb. 2022, at 07:32 pm CET#2
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas? They don't need that, the house advantage is enough for them.
They earn enough!
So such a cheese. Who wants to have more money on this planet?
And anyway, it is not possible.
Anyone who knows a bit about IT knows that.

The video is manipulated. It's guaranteed to be a frustrated ex-player who lost a lot of money and is now taking revenge
revenge. According to psychologist Zockergrein, we just perceive it wrongly, and need a pattern. Without
that no brain gets along, and everything, what we tell, is nonsense! Life experience also doesn't exist.
Everything nonsense!

Do the sayings of the game experts here sound familiar to you?

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B****3

Manipulation of vending machines

17th Feb. 2022, at 07:46 pm CET#3
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And what should I conclude from this now?

That a Player protection agency does not say, well, everything is going well is clear.

And of course a manager talks openly and honestly with such a club and in addition an addict who is anonymous.

So I have already visited some casinos in Germany due to vacations, why have I never won? I think it is proven that you win after the first 3 visits?

So a video with zero significance

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Butterbrezel
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Manipulation of vending machines

17th Feb. 2022, at 07:58 pm CET#4
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The video is quite pointless.
A lot of theories that players who feel cheated have, but they are not provable.
And just because a guy says in a video, that is not necessarily so.

Of course the operator / the Provider / the casino tries to optimize the win.
Especially in Online Casinos by an AI easily possible. On a stationary device certainly also.

Is it Manipulation or is it profit optimization?
Is he specified RTP nevertheless respected or not?

Manipulation would be it nevertheless if:
RTP = 80
RTP really = 60

In addition one would have to indicate a start / end date from when to when the RTP is valid. But there is not. It is an "average value",
so it can be interpreted flexibly.

And now?

Gambling on the machine = The bottom line is that the machine wins
You can also win high, but if you play infinitely you are 100% sure to be in the red, which is caused by the house advantage alone.

If you think you are being cheated, you should not play.
And if people have a gambling problem and just can't leave it alone, there should be a better prevention against gambling problems.

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t****o

Manipulation of vending machines

17th Feb. 2022, at 08:02 pm CET#5
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Wutmaennchen wrote on 02/17/2022 at 19:58: Source: One guy.
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The video is quite pointless.
A lot of theories in it that feel cheated players have, but which are not provable.
And just because a guy says in nem video is not necessarily so.

Of course the operator / the Provider / the casino tries to optimize the win.
Especially in Online Casinos by an AI easily possible. On a stationary device certainly also.

Is it Manipulation or is it profit optimization?
Is he specified RTP nevertheless respected or not?

Manipulation would be it nevertheless if:
RTP = 80
RTP really = 60

In addition one would have to indicate a start / end date from when to when the RTP is valid. But there is not. It is an "average value",
so it can be interpreted flexibly.

And now?

Gambling on the machine = The bottom line is that the machine wins
You can also win high, but if you play infinitely you are 100% sure to be in the red, which is caused by the house advantage alone.

If you think you are being cheated, you should not play.
And if people have a gambling problem and just can't leave it alone, there should be a better prevention against gambling problems.

Flexibly interpretable is a nice euphemism
I'll remember that for my next tax return.
My data is flexibly interpretable.

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R3hab
Elite

Manipulation of vending machines

17th Feb. 2022, at 08:09 pm CET#6
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I mean that there is something to it

I don't know how your experience in arcades is, but if you had Stamm spilos and played for a few years, you would 100% say something different

Have seen too often how people win who have never been in the hall, really one time was a man there 1 visit 800 euros won and the 2 times again 600 euros and the 3 times again 500 euros

Can all also be luck, but can tell you so many funny storrys

But of course also win regular players but just not as often
Ahhh I do not know what may be true
Everything is not so koscha😂

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Rainmann
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Manipulation of vending machines

17th Feb. 2022, at 10:32 pm CET#7
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Peter8 wrote on 17.02.2022 at 20:09: I mean already that there is something to it

I don't know what your experience in arcades is, but if you had Stamm spilos and played for a few years, you would 100% say otherwise

Have seen too often how people win who have never been in the hall, really one time was a man there 1 visit 800 euros won and the 2 times again 600 euros and the 3 times again 500 euros

Can all also be luck, but can tell you so many funny storrys

But of course also win regular players but just not as often
Ahhh I do not know what may be true
Is all not so koscha😂

But how do the machines see if the guy is there for the first time or more often? 😁 Regulars do not always go to the same box or? Puh is with me fortunately very long ago that I was in a gambling house

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R3hab
Elite

Manipulation of vending machines

17th Feb. 2022, at 11:01 pm CET#8
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Rainmann wrote on 02/17/2022 at 10:32 pm
But how do the machines see if the guy is there for the first time or has been there many times? 😁 Regulars don't always go to the same box do they? Puh is with me fortunately very long ago that I was in a gambling house.

As I said, I'm not quite convinced now^^


An example from my experiences
Had earlier 3 Stamm spilos 2 large with more than 20 machines and a small one
Was daily in all. (Was awesome time)
From 2 I knew the technicians, talked a lot with the and just become buddies
They have never talked about manipulations but in the 2 halls I have already heavy wins... Whether the technician has done something? For the reason I have later only played in the 2 halls

It really depends on what you have seen and experienced yourself, I have not experienced all this I would also stamp as bullshit

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B****6

Manipulation of vending machines

18th Feb. 2022, at 09:46 am CET#10
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tequiero wrote on 17.02.2022 at 19:32: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas? They have but not at all necessary, but the house advantage is enough.
They earn enough!
So such a cheese. Who wants more money on this planet?
And anyway, it is not possible.
Anyone who knows a bit about IT knows that.

The video is manipulated. This is guaranteed a frustrated ex-player, who has lost a lot, and is now taking
revenge. According to psychologist Zockergrein, we just perceive it wrong, and need a pattern. Without
that no brain gets along, and everything, what we tell, is nonsense! Life experience also doesn't exist.
Everything nonsense!

Do the sayings of the game experts here sound familiar to you?

You can stop looking at your contribution.

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DolikAdam

Manipulation of vending machines

3rd Oct. 2022, at 02:02 pm CEST#11
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I think the machine sees from the behavior how the person who first came to the institution to play behaves

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