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Casinos: Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

Topic created on 27th Oct. 2019 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 12 | Views: 8,138
Cassy2310

Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

27th Oct. 2019, at 03:59 am CET#1
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Hello dear forum community,

after I have now read a long time here unregistered, I would like to know from you, what you have done for experiences in the casino / casino Duisburg.

Since I am a Roulette player as well as a Slot machine player, I can briefly describe my experiences, which are unfortunately not so good in Duisburg:

Roulette
There is a post here where someone writes about fraud. My experience coincides with the post, not because I lost that night but because I observed something suspicious. I usually play 23-2-2, that is 23,10,5,8 and 30, also on that evening. The 30 was also displayed on the table, the dolly was placed on the 30 and the Croupier started to pay out. Since I always watch the wheel before the ball falls, I also saw the ball lying in the 30, which then calmly "drove" its rounds during the payout. When I then took my chips and looked back into the wheel to consider my next coup, the ball was suddenly in the 8 instead of the 30. This is really no joke. Since we are in Germany, the game should have been stopped immediately - everything is regulated. But the croupier took the ball normally, smiled briefly and threw the next round.

As I said, with the 23-2-2 it didn't matter to me whether 8 or 30 was hit. Only since that day I don't play roulette in the Westspiel casinos anymore. In addition - if one observes bit the tables comes to me too often at two tables next to each other the same numbers or one beside it. That can "times" occur YES - but 20x in 2 hours is for me then a little "too often".

Machine play
It is often said that there is a random generator that determines each new spin. However, I do not believe in it due to my 10 years of casino experience. DA:

All my highest wins I experienced e.g. with BOR in the first 10 rounds. With Merkur devices in the first 5 rounds.
I am talking about bets of 5, 10 or 20 € per spin. That really all wins are in the first 10 rounds at Novo and that a random generator controls I find not logical and contradicts my experience. I just think that each machine has databases that you call as soon as you set the height and either you hit a database with win or just the endless spins without any or only not considerable profits. In Duisburg I have - about counted on 2 years - maybe 10x between 2000-3000 € won (win related to the Endergbnis of the respective game)

Since I have rather more luck in foreign casinos - I think that one is really state-cheated in the German casino of the west play group at least in the Roulette. Because wins of 14,000 - 56,000 € I have never achieved in 10 years at the Westspielgruppe. But more often in foreign casinos.

How does it look with you?

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Kleinkariert
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Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

27th Oct. 2019, at 04:15 am CET#2
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So the experience I can not share, but was never in the casino Duisburg. Actually, it ran for me always quite ok and patterns that hold in the long term I have not. Sometimes for a few weeks the feeling that the 3rd Scatter by double press to stop comes sooner.

Long term but not sustainable. That is cheated in the Live Casino I think in most casinos for rather unlikely except the Croupier himself cheats.

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wettibernd
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Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

27th Oct. 2019, at 04:01 pm CET#3
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My experience in state casinos is this: If there is cheating, it is always to make a player a super winner and someone is cashing in, usually the two croupiers at an American table or a technician in the small game. Simply cheating to make the mass of players lose faster than normal would be really quite pointless, because the math works for the house anyway and the employees want to have a lot of money in the Tronc at the end of the month and that only works if the players win again and again in between

And if in the machine room nothing goes then that is because in the RTP of over 90% also the wins are included by the giant jackpots, so if such a Pot times 500 K throws then you can calculate on the basis of the amount of Slot machines what each individual must bring in

Conclusion is that I think in a state casino you can be 99% sure that everything runs correctly.

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Cassy2310

Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

27th Oct. 2019, at 07:28 pm CET#4
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Conclusion is that I think in a state casino you can be 99% sure that everything is done correctly.

As I already shared my experience. If everything would run so correctly, how do you explain when the ball has already run several rounds, so the wheel runs very smoothly, that the ball is suddenly in the 8 instead of the winning number 30?

If one refers this again to the entire game - I reported tables which stand next to each other often e.g. at table 1 the 26 comes and at table 2 the Zero - to call numbers as an example and these same and/or adjacent numbers repeat themselves in 2 hours in different patterns at least 20 times?

I think, due to all the technology that is now installed under the table, that they trick based on my experience described. Because a German casino which is not exactly a Las Vegas casino as a size opposite must have a way to have to protect against enormous monetary losses.

As I have already reported, I visit foreign casinos as a High Roller myself, and I know the people who also put 100 euros as a minimum stake per number. And everyone reports similar experiences to me.

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wettibernd
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Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

27th Oct. 2019, at 07:45 pm CET#5
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If the ball was really off in the compartment, then the electronics in the boiler would have noticed this immediately and the display of the Permanence would have jumped to 8. It can happen due to the low bars that have been installed in the kettles for about 12 years that the Croupier briefly touched the ball when picking it up and thus moved it to the other compartment before he could pick it up normally. Because how could something like that happen without anyone hearing or seeing anything? I cannot imagine it in any case. Also it would be somehow strange that a 30 becomes an 8, the 8 is usually much more played because this is on the middle column and for many people as a symbol of infinity represents a lucky number, while the 30 is just to be found at the rear edge
Unfortunately, Duisburg is not just around the corner from me, otherwise I would like to take a look and see for myself

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Cassy2310

Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

28th Oct. 2019, at 01:30 am CET#6
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that the Croupier touched the ball briefly when picking it up and thus moved it to the other pocket before he could grip it normally.

No, not at all. As already described, the ball was in the 30. Then the croupier paid out. And during this, or when he gave me my win, I looked into the Pot again and the ball was in the 8. And at this point he had not yet reached into the pot again.

This experience has been unique in 10 years, but in connection with the fact that the tables next to each other throw all 6-9 games either the same number or mostly a number next to it is no longer a coincidence for me.
And connects my described experience with the fact that I think that is manipulated in the casino.

As I said, someone had already spoken of fraud at Westspiel and I can only underline that. Consider also the sale of Andy Warhol pictures from Westspiel. I have seen something like that in my 10 years in no other casino. Sure it happens that at 2 tables the same corner falls. But as I said in 2 hours this several times all 6-9 coups I find no longer left to chance.

Let's make an expose of 27.10.2019 so yesterday in the Casino Duisburg. Only 2 examples which can be continued endlessly - if you look at the permanences on the website.

Table 7
15:03:20 29
15:01:46 28


Table 8
15:04:38 7
15:03:23 7


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Table 7
15:23:46 5


Table 8
15:23:09 23



And what do you say now? It's no longer a coincidence, honestly!

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Kleinkariert
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Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

28th Oct. 2019, at 02:43 am CET#7
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I really don't see anything special about it. I've looked up the statistics for both tables:

Kleinkariert
Kleinkariert
The few times the numbers are the same or close to each other would also be nothing special. That is cheated can be possible, but not to the detriment of all players. But as has already been written to the detriment of the casino because someone wants to win at the game. Sowas flies up now and then. Manipulation on the part of the casino I therefore exclude.

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Felixrl
Experienced

Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

28th Oct. 2019, at 09:01 am CET#8
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Kleinkariert wrote on 27/10/2019 at 04:15: So the experience I can not share, but was never in the casino Duisburg. Actually, it ran for me always quite ok and patterns that hold in the long term I have not. Sometimes for a few weeks the feeling that the 3rd Scatter by double press to stop comes sooner.

Long term but not sustainable. That is cheated in the Live Casino I think in most casinos for rather unlikely except the Croupier himself cheats.

Where do you play exactly?

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Shirley1989
Rookie

Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

28th Oct. 2019, at 03:40 pm CET#9
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I am a regular at the Casino Duisburg for about 8 years. Although play as good as only Poker at the tables but will discuss this case times with the responsible persons if it is approved. Am next week Friday and Saturday again there.

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Begbie
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Experience Casino Spielbank Duisburg

28th Oct. 2019, at 04:05 pm CET#10
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Cassy2310 wrote on 10/27/2019 03:59: That really all the wins are in the first 10 rounds at Novo and that a random generator controls I find not logical and contradicts my experience.

is already enough if the one who was before you at the device has fed this well. if afterwards then one goes on, the device can then also throw well.

the experience you have made, I can confirm at virtual devices in the online casino in any case. if what came big, then seh early in the session.

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