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Casinos: AQ Slot in German Casinos

Topic created on 06th Sep. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 16 | Views: 1,112
Pat1991
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AQ Slot in German Casinos

6th Sep. 2024, at 02:16 am CEST#1
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A short report from somewhere in NRW: I've been to a "real" German casino for the first time in many years and was quite amazed:

The slots almost all had a payout ratio / RTP of 94% displayed.

All respect. This makes me wonder why there are still any Spielos at all.

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AQ Slot in German Casinos

6th Sep. 2024, at 08:02 am CEST#2
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Pat1991 wrote on 06.09.2024 at 02:16: Short report, somewhere from NRW: Been to a "real" German casino for the first time in many years, and was quite amazed:

The slots almost all had a payout ratio / RTP of 94% displayed.

All respect. This makes me wonder why there are still any Spielos at all.

Because not every town has a casino, quite simply

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AQ Slot in German Casinos

6th Sep. 2024, at 08:43 am CEST#3
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Pat1991 wrote on 06.09.2024 at 02:16: Short report, somewhere from NRW: Been to a "real" German casino for the first time in many years, and was quite amazed:

The slots almost all had a payout ratio / RTP of 94% displayed.

All respect. This makes me wonder why there are still any Spielos at all.

I would say the reason is quite simple


Gambling halls are small private entertainment games with the addition of being able to win something and casinos are state casinos where you can really gamble, so although all players are as different as night and day, the target group is different

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Stromberg
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AQ Slot in German Casinos

6th Sep. 2024, at 10:32 am CEST#4
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Casinos aren't antisocial enough either, not everyone feels comfortable there... 😂

Never visited a Spielo or a casino in my life. But wasn't it always written here in the past that the AQ in casinos at slots was/is somewhere around 96 or 97%? Or am I mistaken?

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AQ Slot in German Casinos

6th Sep. 2024, at 10:37 am CEST#5
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Stromberg wrote on 06.09.2024 at 10:32 am: Casinos are not antisocial enough either, not everyone feels comfortable there... 😂

Never visited a Spielo or a casino in my life. But didn't it used to be written here that the AQ in casinos at slots was/is somewhere around 96 or 97%? Or am I mistaken?

Casinos at least have to state a quota, but arcades don't because the fun was abolished in 2004 or 2006 and is theoretically only entertainment, so there is no payout quota in the classic sense

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Pat1991
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AQ Slot in German Casinos

6th Sep. 2024, at 11:05 am CEST#6
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gamble1 wrote on 06.09.2024 at 10:37 am:

Casinos at least have to give a quota gambling halls do not because the fun I mean 2004 or 2006 was abolished and theoretically only entertainment is therefore there is no payout ratio in the classic sense

Only entertainment, according to the law perhaps. In practice, everyone wants to "make money"... AQ according to a waitress approx. 78%... Haha.

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6th Sep. 2024, at 11:34 am CEST#7
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Pat1991 wrote on 06.09.2024 at 11:05:

Just entertainment, by law maybe. Practically everyone wants to "make money"... AQ according to an operator about 78%... Haha.

The stories of employees are always such a thing if you ask me the fact is there is no exact value

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Pat1991
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6th Sep. 2024, at 11:40 am CEST#8
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So I left just under 50 EUR in the casino yesterday... But on 20 cents and in 1-2 hours on Merkur.

In the Spielo it would probably only have been 20 minutes or so.

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Lionking
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AQ Slot in German Casinos

6th Sep. 2024, at 02:41 pm CEST#9
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Stromberg wrote on 06.09.2024 at 10:32 am: Casinos are not antisocial enough either, not everyone feels comfortable there... 😂

Never visited a Spielo or a casino in my life. But didn't it used to be written here that the AQ in casinos at slots was/is somewhere around 96 or 97%? Or am I mistaken?

Yes, that's true, the casinos were still state-run back then.

After the takeover of the casinos in NRW by Merkur, the AQ is now 94. It's now on every machine. Perhaps someone can tell us what the AQ is like in the state-run casinos in the other federal states.
In any case, it should also be mandatory for arcade operators to state the AQ, I think one or the other would then turn on their heels.

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Pat1991
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6th Sep. 2024, at 03:45 pm CEST#10
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Lionking wrote on 06.09.2024 at 14:41:

Yes, that's true, the casinos were still state-run.

After the takeover of the casinos in NRW by Merkur, the AQ is now 94. Is now on every machine. Perhaps someone can tell us what the AQ is like in the state-run casinos in the other federal states.
In any case, it should also be mandatory for arcade operators to state the AQ, I think one or the other would then turn on their heels.

Sorry, that's not possible. This rebooking with the reels is a "game", remember?

Honestly, the laws need to be completely reformed. These constant games of "how do I get around the rules and keep the players poor in the process" just make me want to vomit.

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AQ Slot in German Casinos

6th Sep. 2024, at 05:05 pm CEST#11
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Lionking wrote on 06.09.2024 at 14:41:

Yes, that's true, the casinos were still state-run.

After the takeover of the casinos in NRW by Merkur, the AQ is now 94. Is now on every machine. Perhaps someone can tell us what the AQ is like in the state-run casinos in the other federal states.
In any case, it should also be mandatory for arcade operators to state the AQ, I think one or the other would then turn on their heels.

They used to have to state a quota, but when this was abolished by the legislator, it was logical that they no longer had to do so

As these machines only offer the possibility of winning, which is therefore to be understood as an optional small possible bonus, the focus of these machines should be on entertainment and it was also justified at the time because the machines usually paid out more than was stated in the quota

In addition, with TR5 the pure booking became a "game" and the reels are only entertainment and there are no regulations on entertainment either way, which means the machine can do whatever it wants with you

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Pat1991
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AQ Slot in German Casinos

8th Sep. 2024, at 06:18 am CEST#12
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Lionking wrote on 06.09.2024 at 14:41:

Yes, that's true, the casinos were still state-run.

After the takeover of the casinos in NRW by Merkur, the AQ is now 94. Is now on every machine. Perhaps someone can tell us what the AQ is like in the state-run casinos in the other federal states.
In any case, it should also be mandatory for arcade operators to state the AQ, I think one or the other would then turn on their heels.

It's definitely awesome because even in Vegas the rate is around 85-91%. So, funnily enough, we have the better slots in Germany.

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Lionking
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AQ Slot in German Casinos

8th Sep. 2024, at 02:10 pm CEST#13
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Pat1991 wrote on 08.09.2024 at 06:18:
Is definitely awesome already because even in Vegas the rate is around 85-91%. So, funnily enough, we have the better slots in DE.

Yes, but unfortunately I never notice anything about our supposedly "good" payout ratio in the casinos.

I've been to Duisburg quite a few times recently and I've only ever lost money. Hardly any interim highs due to free spins etc., usually the balance is straight to zero.
You're only allowed to Deposit your money there.
It's no fun anymore.

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Pat1991
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AQ Slot in German Casinos

8th Sep. 2024, at 05:52 pm CEST#14
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For me, it was a pleasant up and down... At least until the end, when things went downhill.

But with Eye of Horus it felt like there were fake free spins every few spins, and with Clone Bonus and El Torero there was no feature at all.

On the other hand, a much more appealing Risk ladder than in the Spielo - there was already a clear feeling.

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Maria_Sonntag
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AQ Slot in German Casinos

9th Sep. 2024, at 09:29 am CEST#15
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A payout ratio of 94% says nothing about what you will receive in the end. 1. firstly, this is only calculated on the one-time stake of the money and secondly, the frame is still missing (i.e. how high the deviation is). If it were a fixed 94%, nobody would play, because if they knew beforehand that they were guaranteed to get €94 for €100 (i.e. no more and no less), it would be pointless.

And I don't know any players who only "twist" the money they've wagered once. It's always a question of how often the money is wagered. At 94%, 94% remains for the first round, 88.36% for the second, 83.06% for the third and 78.08% for the fourth (just from the quota).

The 94% RTP figure is therefore more of a marketing gimmick.... To be honest, the odds in the arcade are not that much different.

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