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Gambling addiction in general: Can I still get away without therapy? (Page 2)

Topic created on 06th Sep. 2022 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 23 | Views: 4,113
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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 04:19 pm CEST#11
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Royal777 wrote on 06/09/2022 at 15:45


This is also a Relevant factor, moreover, such statements massively aggravate the health condition of the sufferer. All patients with a wide variety of psychological problems are simply generalized. Independent thinking, innovative treatments as well as individually adapted therapies are usually only available for a lot of money

Yes, that's right, I have even witnessed with a friend how everything has worsened as a result

He has as already written above an anxiety disorder and thus resulting in the problem of a physical protective reaction vomiting now he had to give up his job and the office as well as some doctors did not want to buy him that he has to constantly vomit by the psyche and have accordingly usually rather pressure than help to provide

The end of the song everything became worse and now a meanwhile chronic inflammation of the stomach was diagnosed which could have been prevented according to statement of several doctors if one would not have put the person as simulant and/or simply only lazy sack and would have lowered thereby the psychological pressure

In the meantime, the understanding is fortunately more widespread, at least among doctors, but I am fascinated by the thought that the psyche is so strong that it can partially trigger diseases that you can never get rid of again, which is usually clear with chronic complaints

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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 04:33 pm CEST#12
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Very good posts, the last two. I can only speak for myself, but such sentences actually help me more than x hours of therapy where I just tell and tell, which sometimes helps in the short term (typical frustration from the soul talk), but in the long term brings no solution. For example, in almost 2 years I have never received any cognitive or behavioral tips, although I have indirectly asked for them.

But there are certainly better therapists who are a bit more active in taking care of their patients. And maybe this rather passive type of assistance is also great for some, there is this saying with the Pot and the lid.

Please do not come across as ungrateful, she has always been very nice and so, but has also, as Royal777 has already touched on in the last sentence, rather worked according to the pattern. Is for a rather complicated knitted people like me then just not the right thing.

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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 04:37 pm CEST#13
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@gamble1

That's an awesome story. People with anxiety disorders often start to avoid these situations more and more, which gives the anxiety disorder power/legitimation to continue to exist. It's really bad like that, and most of the time it's hard for non-affected people to imagine it. But doctors and co. SHOULD be able to.

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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 04:49 pm CEST#14
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SlottiKarotti wrote on 06/09/2022 at 16:37: @gamble1

That's an awesome story. People with anxiety disorders often start to avoid these situations more and more, which gives the anxiety disorder power/legitimation to continue to exist. It's really bad like that, and most of the time it's hard for non-affected people to imagine it. Doctors and Co. SHOULD be able to do it, however.

Exactly and then you create even more space to let the disorder grow further

First it is shopping then larger crowds and at some point you can not even get out of the house now just as an example said

He has now learned over the years to live with it and the fears are largely gone as he says but by this chronic inflammation he is still always set back and is limited for life on the one hand by the pain that comes and goes and on the other hand probably by the memory you notice it to him literally a tiny thought of a direction unpleasant for him and if it is only seconds is enough to have to end a spontaneous meeting

This will be just this typical what if thought and such a life is just really not nice so you should always be grateful if you are healthy there are enough people who unfortunately are not

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6th Sep. 2022, at 05:14 pm CEST#15
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SlottiKarotti wrote on 06.09.2022 at 16:33: Should please also not come across ungrateful, she has always been very nice and such, but has also, as Royal777 has already alluded to in the last sentence, rather worked according to scheme. Is for a rather complicated knitted people like me then just not the right thing.

Typically German, maybe just human.

After the school time as well as after a successful study conclusion most are of the opinion that they know now everything.
Patient A is addicted to sex, Patient B is addicted to slots. The textbook says that addiction is triggered by dopamine in the brain

"Dopamine is used in the brain to communicate between nerve cells, so it is a nerve messenger (neurotransmitter) . In certain "circuits" it conveys positive emotional experiences ("reward effect"), which is why it - like serotonin - is considered a happiness hormone."

According to the physicians and therapists is thus scientifically proven that one must necessarily these luck hormones therapies. Both other opinions and scientific findings and studies, as well as individual approaches to therapies are usually not accepted

"At up to 80% of patients with depression relapse after successful treatment"
In addition, only a fraction of patients manage to successfully complete therapy and of those, 80% relapse.

With these numbers, one must question the processes of therapy, but that is not done here in this country. Instead, the finger is pointed at the patient...

Probably the placebo effect has a better success rate than the standard model of therapy...


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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 06:22 pm CEST#16
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Royal777 wrote on 06/09/2022 at 17:14

Typical German, maybe just human.

After the school time as well as after a successful study conclusion most are of the opinion that they know now everything.
Patient A is addicted to sex, patient B is addicted to slots. The textbook says that addiction is triggered by dopamine in the brain

"Dopamine is used in the brain to communicate between nerve cells, so it is a nerve messenger (neurotransmitter) . In certain "circuits", it conveys positive emotional experiences ("reward effect"), which is why it - like serotonin - is considered a happiness hormone."

According to the physicians and therapists is thus scientifically proven that one must necessarily these luck hormones therapies. Both other opinions and scientific findings and studies, as well as individual approaches to therapies are usually not accepted

"At up to 80% of patients with depression relapse after successful treatment"
In addition, only a fraction of patients manage to successfully complete therapy and of those, 80% relapse.

With these numbers, one must question the processes of therapy, but that is not done here in this country. Instead, the finger is pointed at the patient...

Probably the placebo effect has a better success rate than the standard model of therapy...

Those are some heavy numbers, I would not have expected so bad. Maybe the health Insurance companies should start to make a part of the salary dependent on the success rate. It can't be that some psychotherapists who have a very low cure rate earn as much as psychotherapists who are really good at what they do and almost every patient is cured


Just kind of an added incentive to do a little better work. As the status quo is, they can be as bad as they want, and keep getting the KK money, at least until eventually no more patients come. But it may well be that I am overlooking some pitfalls, such as fraud, if it were handled in this way. Nevertheless, it will probably be possible to design it in such a way that this is the exception rather than the rule.

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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 06:43 pm CEST#17
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SlottiKarotti wrote on 06.09.2022 at 18:22

Those are some hefty numbers, wouldn't have expected them to be that bad. Maybe the KK should start to make a part of the salary dependent on the success rate. Can not really be that some psychotherapists who have a very low cure rate earn just as much as psychotherapists who really have what on the box and almost every patient is cured.

The subject is certainly more complex than one might think, both in medicine and in other areas.

We know more about the moon than we do about the deep sea. We know more about the deep sea than we do about the human brain. We know more about the brain than about the cosmos, etc.

As it Gamble1 already mentioned, usually the responsible ones fail already at the acceptance, whereby we achieve in the research no considerable progress, in order to apply these in the therapies.

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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 07:58 pm CEST#18
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Addiction is a massive problem, I feel in good hands with my addiction counselor,
The counselor noticed that I blame myself for everything, which is normal
She said that can have many factors, if the circumstances are right or not right
With this I want to say that it is not only dopamine what they say what explained the addiction and triggers there are many things that have influence.


The clinic should also be looked at very carefully, I did not want to go to a clinic with heroin or cocaine users, for example
you should find the best clinic yourself and not just let yourself be referred to nowhere


To the te
I would recommend you not to say anything and close your eyes and ask yourself one question
Can I play disciplined without losing control?



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Can I still get away without therapy?

9th Sep. 2022, at 10:37 am CEST#19
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So with me the hard CUT has helped last year... I am also constantly running behind losses that I wanted to recover, but this is logically a bottomless pit, it only gets worse and worse.

So I have blocked me at my sports betting Provider for 1 year, including OASIS. So I really couldn't gamble anywhere anymore! And it goes if you know that you have no more serious options to gamble!

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Can I still get away without therapy?

9th Sep. 2022, at 10:59 am CEST#20
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refucs wrote on 09.09.2022 at 10:37: So with me the hard CUT has helped last year... I am also andauern losses chased I wanted to get back in, but this is logically a bottomless pit, it only gets worse and worse....

So I have blocked me at my sports betting Provider for 1 year, including OASIS. So I really couldn't gamble anywhere anymore! And it goes when you know you have no serious options to gamble anymore!

I am since 3 months gambling free go to an otientierungsgruppe 1 times a week and once a week individual meetings.rentenversicherung has granted me an inpatient rehab although an outpatient was applied for 40 weeks.ich go in contradiction a clinic stay of 3 months is out of the question for me.aber me it is psychologically clearly already somewhat better since I am gambling free, the debts of course remain.wie I should handle exactly I do not know So stay strong there is help

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