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Gambling addiction in general: Can I still get away without therapy?

Topic created on 06th Sep. 2022 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 23 | Views: 4,139
Voyaflex

Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 02:39 am CEST#1
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Hello dear community, as a silent mitlesen I must now with a heavy heart myself to speak. I am simply at the end with my life and that with 21. But everything from the beginning.

With 18. I gambled the first time small sports betting nothing exciting sometimes lost sometimes won

With 19. I had to go to the army (Austria) for 6 months. There I had a very boring post and had a lot of time with my cell phone and since the salary during these 6 months was very poor. I thought I would improve it a little with online roulette. What I also managed to make from 200€ - 3000€ wanted to pay it off was happy to finally have saved a little on the side by doing so and no longer have to have financial fears. However, a total loss of control set in lost everything that was the worst I had ever felt. I swore never to Deposit again but impossible... What followed were 4 more months with constant small deposits and withdrawals in the 3 digit range.


I turned 20 and started a very well paid education. I swore that I now earn well to become thrifty and never deposit more I did not succeed. The stakes rose and from my favorite game Blackjack from Evolution Gaming I could not keep my hands off because I had more money, the stakes rose sharply. 1000€ one hand normal. Won also 14000€ thereby let everything pay out and then swore me again to stop without success gambled over months down to 8000€ again everything. The 8000€ I took and got me a loan from the bank and a car around 20.000€ to buy. For me it was clear through that I now have debts I will no longer gamble.

1 month I was about gambling free the training I have completed I am now 21 and well what again has not withstood that I will not gamble. Have in this job about a salary of 3500 € net monthly and have not yet managed to pay off my car or save properly what. However, I have managed almost a year not to play with high stakes. However, I'm currently back at it and that's what's bothering me the most right now. I have 4000€ just in the payout and 2000€ gambled away on another casino. How do I not constantly chase my loss? The lost 2000€ occupy me so that I would like to gamble with the 4000€. But I know that it would go wrong

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I hope I could tell my story halfway understandable now I want to ask you will it be possible to solve this problem without therapy?

At the moment the gambling distracts me even from my work which makes it very dangerous and I sometimes fear my job.

Ps. still live at home, have a friend who knows but not even close that it is so bad. No one else.

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RebellYell
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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 09:18 am CEST#2
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It sounds like you definitely don't want to do therapy? May I ask why?

In my opinion, therapy would even be advisable in your case!

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Max_Bet
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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 09:22 am CEST#3
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I would advise you to seek professional help. This is nothing bad and does not hurt. You have a wife and a well-paid job. That gives you stability. Find out why you gamble. Write off your losses instead of mourning them. Take stock and set yourself new goals such as your own apartment, possibly together with your girlfriend, etc... Will be all right 👌 you're still young ...

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Rhino

Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 09:45 am CEST#4
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Hey Voyaflex!

Perhaps to your initial question: It is always difficult to answer this as an outsider. Even if everyone here agrees with you and recommends therapy, in the end it is your decision. At this point I would like to direct you - I hope this doesn't contradict any forum rules I don't know about - to the Spielsuchthilfe in Vienna (assuming you live locally). I am currently in outpatient therapy myself at this very place. Not only do they offer complete discretion and anonymity, but they do it all for free. But you can find all that with a short research on their website.

Now maybe a little tale from my life: I am currently in my mid-twenties and the story started similarly for me. During my civil service I gambled away half of my already meager income every month, despite monthly promises that this would be the last time. In the years that followed, in short, it didn't necessarily get better, rather a lot worse. Long story short: I've made countless attempts on my own and, after 5 years of addiction, I've realized that I can't make it without outside help.For me personally, this was the right choice, because I've been abstinent since the beginning of therapy, which I simply haven't been able to do for more than a month in the last few years.

Nevertheless, a therapy only helps if the person concerned is open and ready for it (at least according to my understanding). From my point of view, however, I can only advise you to at least give it a try. I am convinced that there are enough places that offer at least a non-binding first appointment, where you can find out if therapy is something for you at this time.

All the best!

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gamble1
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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 01:05 pm CEST#5
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You have to keep in mind that no matter how much money you have or earn it is always gone with ease!

The basic behavior remains the same only the stakes change and that's even for millionaires and billionaires so anyone can ruin themselves and anyone will ruin themselves if they give up control !

If you can't get away from gambling right away then put some control in the right hands give up your card and let them give you money or invest your money so that you can't get it yourself after a few months you will learn again what this means money has for a value

In the end you have to want a change it's like smoking so many people need substitutes for their nicotine and others just quit right away you have to want it then you can do it all

You are young you haven't run your life into the wall yet but even if that sounds awesome now you will if you go about it the wrong way and then debts of 100.000 - 1.000.000 are not uncommon anymore

Turn around and don't jump off the cliff you are moving towards you can do it

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Anonym

Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 01:58 pm CEST#6
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I also did outpatient therapy years ago and can assure you that there is no guarantee that you will be cured. More than 3/4 fail and of the other 25% there are mostly relapses.

My therapists didn't even know how a vending machine worked. Instead they lump you in with alcoholics, sex addicts, cocanases and fifa players, the psychologists make no distinction.

Well, what should you do about this "pressure" in your head? I would talk to your parents or your favorite person (girlfriend) about it in detail and give them all your available money. If you need money, then you need to prove it and show receipts if necessary.
It is important that you entrust your money to the most important person in your life, because this increases the inhibition threshold to abuse his trust many times over. Within a few months you will experience a noticeable change in yourself.

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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 02:07 pm CEST#7
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I would not have thought that one earns little in the Austrian army. How much do you earn there per month?

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Anonym

Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 02:44 pm CEST#8
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Royal777 wrote on 06.09.2022 at 13:58: I had also done an outpatient therapy years ago and can assure you that there is no guarantee that you will be cured by it. More than 3/4 fail and of the other 25% there are mostly relapses.

My therapists didn't even know how a vending machine worked. Instead they lump you in with alcoholics, sex addicts, cocanases and fifa players, the psychologists make no distinction.

Well, what should you do about this "pressure" in your head? I would talk to your parents or your favorite person (girlfriend) about it in detail and give them all your available money. If you need money, then you need to prove it and show receipts if necessary.
It is important that you entrust your money to the most important person in your life, because this increases the inhibition threshold to abuse his trust many times over. Within a few months you will experience a noticeable change in yourself.



Especially if the chemistry between therapist and patient is not really right, it will be very difficult with the healing. Due to the fact that you often have long waiting times as a patient for the initial consultation, you often ignore this as a patient because you don't like to wait that long again. My therapist, for example, didn't really go into my various addictions at all, but more or less just took note of it. I have to say, however, that I went to her primarily because of depression. But that doesn't come about without a reason, and addictions are certainly also partly the cause.

I am firmly convinced that it depends to 80-90% on one's own strength of will whether one overcomes an addiction or not (by the way, relapses are not the end of the world, but often part of the process. Many things just don't work overnight)

Of course, this doesn't help much if you only have a weak will at the moment. I think it helps to reflect on your own life again and again, and maybe imagine how good life would be without this addiction to strengthen your will. Meditation is certainly not wrong.

@TE All the best for your path, whatever that may be!

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Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 03:15 pm CEST#9
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SlottiKarotti wrote on 06.09.2022 at 14:44


Especially if the chemistry between therapist and patient is not really right, it will be very difficult with the healing. Due to the fact that you often have long waiting times as a patient for the initial consultation, you often ignore this as a patient because you don't like to wait that long again. My therapist, for example, didn't really go into my various addictions at all, but more or less just took note of it. I have to say, however, that I went to her primarily because of depression. But that doesn't come about without a reason, and addictions are certainly also partly the cause.

I am firmly convinced that it depends to 80-90% on one's own strength of will whether one overcomes an addiction or not (by the way, relapses are not the end of the world, but often part of the process. Many things just don't work overnight)

Of course, this doesn't help much if you only have a weak will at the moment. I think it helps to reflect on your own life again and again, and maybe imagine how good life would be without this addiction to strengthen your will. Meditation is certainly not wrong.

@TE All the best for your path, whatever it may be!

Mostly one is weakened by addictions no matter what kind and thus opens the door or gate for mainly mental illnesses which can sometimes be really extremely noticeable in physical complaints

I know people who are psychologically so battered by anxiety disorders with these are partly completely banal things like going shopping directly connected with handover because the discomfort manifests itself in physical reactions

Such psychosomatic diseases are unfortunately much too little in the society of the knowledge and many is simply laziness and simulating after-said partly also by psychologists therefore it is not a big miracle that many partly of addictions nothing at all want to know

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Anonym

Can I still get away without therapy?

6th Sep. 2022, at 03:45 pm CEST#10
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SlottiKarotti wrote on 06.09.2022 at 14:44

I am a firm believer that it depends 80-90% on one's willpower strength

This is the crux of the matter, because the important aspect is not worked on the part of the therapists. How do you strengthen your self-confidence, ambition and will to recognize and overcome a challenge, the addiction? As a rule, it is independent achievements, as well as small goals that one has accomplished due to his abilities
What does this look like in detail? This is different for each person, some enjoy a promotion in their job while others already consider getting dressed and showering regularly as a challenge. Step by Step...


gamble1
Such psychosomatic illnesses are unfortunately much too little spread in the society from the knowledge and many is simply only laziness and simulating after-said to partly also from psychologists


This is also a relevant factor, moreover, such statements massively aggravate the state of health of the sufferer. All patients with various psychological problems are simply generalized. Independent thinking, innovative treatments as well as individually adapted therapies are usually only available for a lot of money

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