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Gambling addiction in general: Why addiction and gambling addiction is not a disease ! (Page 2)

Topic created on 19th Dec. 2019 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 28 | Views: 6,921
Anonym
But But...

It's true, addiction itself is not a disease. Rather, addiction is a side effect
Triggered by a cause

The best provable example would be ADHD. Not the attention deficit, but the less noticed error in the brain
By the way, this is congenital. Namely, the dopamine release is not correct. The brain can not regulate correctly

Meaning, what satisfies normal people, does not satisfy these people .
They need a bigger kick, which signals the brain clearly that it is time to feel pleasure
It can also happen that these people, to "normal" occasions, where one is just okey drauf, föllig Euphoric are, because the brain, too much ausschütet

Often this is also accompanied by depessions, or mani and the like. In good German, this "error" sets up a lot of damage

Now to the actually TH topic.

There is a therapy in the form of tablets. Medikinet, Stattera, Ritalien. Ritalien should be known to students
What makes a normal person, Highly concentrated, and extremely Positive, and stimulating , shows yes, how strong the deffiziet is.


But what has Gambling addiction to do with it ?

Well, that is the self-therapy. Another kind of "tablet." Gambling also stimulates production. (Or other addictive substances)

The same is true for all types of depression

How do I know this? I am myself affected by this brain defect, the regulation of norepinephrine and dopamine due to AD(H)S





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Dedo3377
Visitor
Danny94 wrote on 12/22/2019 07:14: But But...

It's true, addiction itself is not a disease. Rather, addiction is a side effect
Triggered by a cause

The best provable example would be ADHD. Not the attention deficit, but the less noticed error in the brain
By the way, this is congenital. Namely, the dopamine release is not correct. The brain can not regulate correctly

Meaning, what satisfies normal people, does not satisfy these people .
They need a bigger kick, which signals the brain clearly that it is time to feel pleasure
It can also happen that these people, to "normal" occasions, where one is just okey drauf, föllig Euphoric are, because the brain, too much ausschütet

Often this is also accompanied by depessions, or mani and the like. In good German, this "error" sets up a lot of damage

Now to the actually TH topic.

There is a therapy in the form of tablets. Medikinet, Stattera, Ritalien. Ritalien should be known to students
What makes a normal person, Highly concentrated, and extremely Positive, and stimulating , shows yes, how strong the deffiziet is.


But what has Gambling addiction to do with it ?

Well, that is the self-therapy. Another kind of "tablet." Gambling also stimulates production. (Or other addictive substances)

The same is true for all types of depression

How do I know this? I myself am affected by this brain defect, the regulation of norepinephrine and dopamine due to AD(H)S






interesting approach to the subject of addiction.... that "adhsler" are more susceptible to addictions is known...but there is soooooviel much more than this neurochemical explanation of the "clinical picture" AD(H)S... and Rita acts pretty much the same for everyone.... whether you jez allegedly AD(H)s have. Or. Not is wurscht....

Gambling addiction starts neurologically in the same center as coca,. amphe etc.. (explained as simple as possible). You are rewarded and rewarded - and this dopa rush is soo great when the 5 beucher have, or 20k in a picture... and if that once experienced then logically, you chase the (un) consciously after...

and that works with EVERY addiction so...

and if you jez believe you have adhs, you have a congenital deficit in something that can not be proven or is said in passing, then it is nothing but ne excuse for one / our weakness, not to be able to say no when it comes down to it
...

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Quietscheentchen
Experienced
I can agree with the article that it really is a matter of will to get away from addiction again. If I'm serious about it, I can do it
An addiction is not vital, so I have the chance to quit at any time. I don't have that with diseases
But an addiction can become life-threatening or lead to pathological side effects.

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Dedo3377
Visitor
And still in shortest version because I type with the cell phone and my whole half novel was not posted and everything is gone ....


it is much more complex than the insanity adhs is a brain error in the dopamine balance

according to your post I read out that depression, mania, bipolar disorder(s).... Addiction ... cynically said all the evil of the world depends on the dopahirnfehlersyndrom aka adhs....

and there is so much more to say about it but i let it be now ^^

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Skitch22
Elite
Danny94 wrote on 12/22/2019 07:14: But But...

It's true, addiction itself is not a disease. Rather, addiction is a side effect
Triggered by a cause

The best provable example would be ADHD. Not the attention deficit, but the less noticed error in the brain
By the way, this is congenital. Namely, the dopamine release is not correct. The brain can not regulate correctly

Meaning, what satisfies normal people, does not satisfy these people .
They need a bigger kick, which signals the brain clearly that it is time to feel pleasure
It can also happen that these people, to "normal" occasions, where one is just okey drauf, föllig Euphoric are, because the brain, too much ausschütet

Often this is also accompanied by depessions, or mani and the like. In good German, this "error" sets up a lot of damage

Now to the actually TH topic.

There is a therapy in the form of tablets. Medikinet, Stattera, Ritalien. Ritalien should be known to students
What makes a normal person, Highly concentrated, and extremely Positive, and stimulating , shows yes, how strong the deffiziet is.


But what has Gambling addiction to do with it ?

Well, that is the self-therapy. Another kind of "tablet." Gambling also stimulates production. (Or other addictive substances)

The same is true for all types of depression

How do I know this? I myself am affected by this brain defect, the regulation of norepinephrine and dopamine due to AD(H)S






I also have AD(H)S

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Anonym
It should be more an example of a possibility that very well exists, and is therefore probable


There can be 1000 reasons, just had a widely used example at hand



For me also the most logical


If there is a disturbance in the dopaminergic (nerve cells), this must be compensated, if this does not succeed with the body's own messenger substances, and you do not get any medication, it just happens on another way, the stimulus

It is also scientifically proven that addictive drugs have an increased effect of dopamine, serotonnin and gamma. Aminobutyric acid. By the way, withdrawal complications can be increased due to the disturbance in the dopamine level. Thus, this type of person also has a harder time going through withdrawal


Especially in AD(H)S the dopamine deficiency arises predominantly (can you say arises ? It is missing ) in the striatum (cerebrum) than in the dopaminergic.

Why, I don't know, unfortunately I don't know myself so well



insanity adhs is a brain error in the dopamine balance.

no no, the error in the dopamine balance, is a concomitant symptom, which is predominantly associated with ADHD
The disease itself is extra ordered and can bring different syndromes. Apart from the eponymous



and Rita works with everyone pretty much the same.... whether you jez allegedly AD(H)s have. Or. Not is wurscht.....

One should see AD(H)S more as an umbrella term, with which many different accompanying symptoms go along

And Rita does not work the same for everyone:

in most Ritalin is Methylphenidat, which can increase the amount of the messenger substances Dopamin and Noradrenalin in the brain.
There we are again with the dopamine deficiency ^^

Therefore, this is for healthy people Aufpushent, and for people with just this error, a help.


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Anonym
Dedo3377 wrote on 12/22/2019 08:40: And still in shortest version since I type with my mobile and my whole half novel was not posted and everything is gone ....


it is much more complex than the insanity adhs is a brain error in the dopamine balance

according to your post I read out that depression, mania, bipolar disorder(s).... Addiction ... cynically said all the evil of the world depends on the dopahirnfehlersyndrom aka adhs....

and there is so much more to say about it but i let it go ^^

I think that you and Danny are not so far apart opinion-wise - think also he did not want to make "the error in the brain" now basically responsible for everything or use for a self-responsibility-free victim role.
In fact, according to recent findings, it seems that depression, mania, ADHD, etc. have biochemically similar neurotransmitter "mis "regulation, it will be interesting with the new imaging techniques that show how differently the whole thing is then implemented by the brain. by the way, I am deliberately careful with the use of the word "error" - I would prefer to speak first of a difference.
(Are there no neuroscientists here in the forum? Biochemists? It would be super interesting to hear/read something first hand about this topic.)

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Anonym
Danny94 wrote on 12/22/2019 09:28: It was meant to be more of an example of a possibility that very well exists, and is therefore Warscheinlich


There can be 1000 reasons, just had a widely used example at hand


For me also the most logical


If there is a disturbance in the dopaminergic (nerve cells), this must be compensated, if this does not succeed with the body's own messenger substances, and you do not get any medication, it just happens on another way, the stimulus

It is also scientifically proven that addictive drugs have an increased effect of dopamine, serotonnin and gamma. Aminobutyric acid. By the way, withdrawal complications can be increased due to the disturbance in the dopamine level. Thus, this type of person also has a harder time going through withdrawal


Especially in AD(H)S the dopamine deficiency arises predominantly (can you say arises ? It is missing ) in the striatum (cerebrum) than in the dopaminergic.

Why, I do not know
not, unfortunately I do not know so well



insanity adhs is a brain error in the dopamine balance.

no no, the error in the dopamine balance, is a concomitant symptom, which is predominantly associated with ADHD
The disease itself is extra ordered and can bring different syndromes. Apart from the eponymous



and Rita works with everyone pretty much the same.... whether you jez allegedly AD(H)s have. Or. Not is wurscht.....

One should see AD(H)S more as an umbrella term, with which many different accompanying symptoms go along

And Rita does not work the same for everyone:

in most Ritalin is Methylphenidat, which can increase the amount of the messenger substances Dopamin and Noradrenalin in the brain.
There we are again with the dopamine deficiency ^^

Therefore, this is for healthy people Aufpushent, and for people with just this error, a help.



oops, overlapped

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Anonym
and where is crystal_machmeth anyway, while we are on the subject

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MarcT22186
Expert
redfoxx wrote on 12/22/2019 09:34: and where is crystal_machmeth anyway, while we are on the topic


We're only talking about amphetamines here, not methamphetamine or coke.
Why would he play county league when there is CL? 😜

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