The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed
23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:24 pm CET#51
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PiaMia221 wrote on 03/23/2018 at 10:16 pm
Actually even on 80% of my text.
haha, you probably didn't expect me to spend more time than absolutely necessary for your bullshit text where you also want to have everything explained in detail and then don't understand it, you 2 somehow fit together
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:30 pm CET#52
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I will write something about it and I think the thread should be closed then.
It was clear that this thread will strongly polarize here. No question, but to accuse Avantgarde of that now, is just not fair. He has everything, but also everything tried to regulate otherwise.
Whether that was so right here, even that I wrote that? No idea..maybe yes, maybe no...But for months so many lies have been served up and at some point it is also good.
I still think Hammerdammer is not a bad person. But if someone has helped him over and over again really hard (there is no need to go into detail here, because that really does not belong here) and the person is lied to and stalled again and again. Sometime is also times good.
I wish Hammer really that he does NOT take the whole thing here against him and finally there times what does...But by itself will not.
I'm still very sad that it ended like this, it didn't have to be...but that's exactly what he has to blame himself and not push the blame now on those who helped him....
So now I have finished...
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The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed
23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:41 pm CET#53
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Public denunciation is not correct !
Avantgarde was the one who won 16k on JACK, right ?
Find this publicizing very shit !
Make it up among yourselves !
You have addresses from you or ?
ADMINS ?
Where are you ?
Please delete this thread !!!
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:47 pm CET#54
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Ronny1982 wrote on 23/03/2018 at 22:30: I will write something about it one more time and I think the thread should be closed then.
Clearly was that, that this thread will polarize here strongly. No question, but to accuse Avantgarde of that now is just not fair. He has everything, but also everything tried to regulate otherwise.
Whether that was so right here, even that I wrote that? No idea..maybe yes, maybe no...But for months so many lies have been served up and at some point it is also good.
I still think Hammerdammer is not a bad person. But if someone has helped him over and over again really hard (there is no need to go into detail here, because that really does not belong here) and the person is lied to and stalled again and again. Sometime is also times good.
I wish Hammer really that he does NOT take the whole thing here against him and finally there times what does...But by itself will not.
I'm still very sad that it ended like this, it didn't have to be...but that's exactly what he has to blame himself and not push the blame now on those who helped him....
So now I have finished...
That's it. Quietly close. Amen!
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 11:25 pm CET#55
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Gambling addiction is a really gruesome addiction.
You literally gamble with your life.
Most people (unconsciously) put themselves in increasingly difficult situations to feel something and escape the boredom and dreariness. Winning money is no longer the point. I even know players who told me that after a session that lasted for days, they were glad when they finally had no more money, because then they could finally sleep peacefully.
Everybody who is addicted to gambling or tends to be, has to realize that this is no fun anymore. It will not somehow again and even a big win would change nothing at all in the situation, because one would gamble it anyway again. It would only gnaw even more on the self-esteem to have gambled away a big win. The only thing that helps is to admit your addiction and to stop gambling without exception. Do not take a break from gambling. But to remove yourself completely from it.
I don't think it's good to make this public, but maybe it really gives some people here the impulse to think about it and change their situation.
A gambling addict must realize that he can never have a normal life with his Gambling addiction, can never start/keep a family and can never build real friendships and social contacts because the addiction destroys everything.
I wish it to every affected person to go deep inside himself and then make the right decisions.
Every day has 24 hours and you decide every day how to use it.
We make decisions every day, especially (supposedly) small decisions.
A good life consists of making good decisions and a bad life consists of making bad decisions.
So if you can't get out of your situation because everything seems to be too big and you're already in over your head, you have to realize that you can't solve the problem in one fell swoop, but that it's not that hard either, because all you have to do is make good decisions every day. You just have to start doing it.
Ask yourself where you will be in 5 years if you start making good decisions now and where you will be if you make bad decisions for 5 years.
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 11:35 pm CET#56
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I don't think Avantgarde just opened this thread. I think he did not know
further. Maybe he wants to warn others not to lend money to Hammerdammer.
Why would that be a negative thing to do?
He gave Hammerdammer his money in complete confidence. Since then, he has had to listen to lies
and excuses, and that certainly not just since yesterday.
It is nothing reprehensible to inform the community, so that others do not fall for begging or lies
fall for begging or lies. So where is the problem?
A forum member meant well, lent money, and didn't get it back.
And in one of the sleaziest ways there is. Gambling addiction or not. That's what he's telling us,
nothing more. If Hammerdammer wanted to make a statement, he would have done so long ago
everything seems to be true
And as mentioned here, the fact that Hammerdammer posts winning pictures only proves that he continues to gamble away his money
that he continues to gamble away his money, and does not dream of paying back Avantgarde's
To pay back his money
I would have gone in the place of Avantgarde still completely different ways.
Why do some people here suddenly turn a victim into a perpetrator?
I assume that he is telling the truth. Why should one tolerate such an antisocial
Why should such antisocial behavior be tolerated, glossed over or not even addressed?
It is the shabbiest way to beg money through lies and fabricated stories.
And that's not all, you beg for money a second time.
Of course, Avantgarde is to blame. But he let himself be softened and wanted to help a member of the
He wanted to help a forum member. That one so extremely of a well-known forum member is beschissen
he might have thought, but probably did not believe it.
And that's why I think it's good and right, so that he does not succeed with his money-looting
another time here has success.
From therefore thank you Avantgarde, everything done right!
The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed
24th Mar. 2018, at 10:43 am CET#57
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To be honest, the topic here also gets to me a bit, I too was once in the situation that I had to borrow money, but have always paid back to the cent, or more than I would have had to pay.
Unfortunately, I also know the issue when you lend money and do not get it back, if I think about it, this happened in my life so far 2x and yet I can understand Avantgarde - you help because you see the positive in people. I too have lent money to people and didn't expect that they will never pay it back. I once read: Never lend money to a friend,... if it is a real friend, then LEND it to him.
If he voluntarily pays it back, it's nice, if not, it's nice too. It was a GIFT.
If you can't handle the loss of the borrowed money emotionally or materially, try to support your friend in other ways.
That Hammerdammer does not comment, I do not want to and cannot judge anything at all. He will have his reasons, you can not look into people. Since this topic does not need to be discussed further in my opinion now, I have decided to close the topic.
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haha, you probably didn't expect me to spend more time than absolutely necessary for your bullshit text where you also want to have everything explained in detail and then don't understand it, you 2 somehow fit together
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It was clear that this thread will strongly polarize here. No question, but to accuse Avantgarde of that now, is just not fair. He has everything, but also everything tried to regulate otherwise.
Whether that was so right here, even that I wrote that? No idea..maybe yes, maybe no...But for months so many lies have been served up and at some point it is also good.
I still think Hammerdammer is not a bad person. But if someone has helped him over and over again really hard (there is no need to go into detail here, because that really does not belong here) and the person is lied to and stalled again and again. Sometime is also times good.
I wish Hammer really that he does NOT take the whole thing here against him and finally there times what does...But by itself will not.
I'm still very sad that it ended like this, it didn't have to be...but that's exactly what he has to blame himself and not push the blame now on those who helped him....
So now I have finished...
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Avantgarde was the one who won 16k on JACK, right ?
Find this publicizing very shit !
Make it up among yourselves !
You have addresses from you or ?
ADMINS ?
Where are you ?
Please delete this thread !!!
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That's it. Quietly close. Amen!
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You literally gamble with your life.
Most people (unconsciously) put themselves in increasingly difficult situations to feel something and escape the boredom and dreariness. Winning money is no longer the point. I even know players who told me that after a session that lasted for days, they were glad when they finally had no more money, because then they could finally sleep peacefully.
Everybody who is addicted to gambling or tends to be, has to realize that this is no fun anymore. It will not somehow again and even a big win would change nothing at all in the situation, because one would gamble it anyway again. It would only gnaw even more on the self-esteem to have gambled away a big win. The only thing that helps is to admit your addiction and to stop gambling without exception. Do not take a break from gambling. But to remove yourself completely from it.
I don't think it's good to make this public, but maybe it really gives some people here the impulse to think about it and change their situation.
A gambling addict must realize that he can never have a normal life with his Gambling addiction, can never start/keep a family and can never build real friendships and social contacts because the addiction destroys everything.
I wish it to every affected person to go deep inside himself and then make the right decisions.
Every day has 24 hours and you decide every day how to use it.
We make decisions every day, especially (supposedly) small decisions.
A good life consists of making good decisions and a bad life consists of making bad decisions.
So if you can't get out of your situation because everything seems to be too big and you're already in over your head, you have to realize that you can't solve the problem in one fell swoop, but that it's not that hard either, because all you have to do is make good decisions every day. You just have to start doing it.
Ask yourself where you will be in 5 years if you start making good decisions now and where you will be if you make bad decisions for 5 years.
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further. Maybe he wants to warn others not to lend money to Hammerdammer.
Why would that be a negative thing to do?
He gave Hammerdammer his money in complete confidence. Since then, he has had to listen to lies
and excuses, and that certainly not just since yesterday.
It is nothing reprehensible to inform the community, so that others do not fall for begging or lies
fall for begging or lies. So where is the problem?
A forum member meant well, lent money, and didn't get it back.
And in one of the sleaziest ways there is. Gambling addiction or not. That's what he's telling us,
nothing more. If Hammerdammer wanted to make a statement, he would have done so long ago
everything seems to be true
And as mentioned here, the fact that Hammerdammer posts winning pictures only proves that he continues to gamble away his money
that he continues to gamble away his money, and does not dream of paying back Avantgarde's
To pay back his money
I would have gone in the place of Avantgarde still completely different ways.
Why do some people here suddenly turn a victim into a perpetrator?
I assume that he is telling the truth. Why should one tolerate such an antisocial
Why should such antisocial behavior be tolerated, glossed over or not even addressed?
It is the shabbiest way to beg money through lies and fabricated stories.
And that's not all, you beg for money a second time.
Of course, Avantgarde is to blame. But he let himself be softened and wanted to help a member of the
He wanted to help a forum member. That one so extremely of a well-known forum member is beschissen
he might have thought, but probably did not believe it.
And that's why I think it's good and right, so that he does not succeed with his money-looting
another time here has success.
From therefore thank you Avantgarde, everything done right!
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Unfortunately, I also know the issue when you lend money and do not get it back, if I think about it, this happened in my life so far 2x and yet I can understand Avantgarde - you help because you see the positive in people. I too have lent money to people and didn't expect that they will never pay it back. I once read: Never lend money to a friend,... if it is a real friend, then LEND it to him.
If he voluntarily pays it back, it's nice, if not, it's nice too. It was a GIFT.
If you can't handle the loss of the borrowed money emotionally or materially, try to support your friend in other ways.
That Hammerdammer does not comment, I do not want to and cannot judge anything at all. He will have his reasons, you can not look into people. Since this topic does not need to be discussed further in my opinion now, I have decided to close the topic.
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