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Gambling addiction in general: The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed (Page 5)

Topic created on 23rd Mar. 2018 | Page: 5 of 6 | Answers: 56 | Views: 12,688
RiverSong
Legend

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:05 pm CET#41
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PiaMia221 wrote on 03/23/2018 at 21:51
Iseedeadpeople wrote on 03/23/2018 at 20:26

also meant the fact with the pictures and videos, aren't they but let it be, don't feel like it anymore.

So normally I'm a quiet person and keep me out of something like that but now it's enough
What facts do you mean exactly? Because someone uploaded a winning picture of which you don't even know in which period of time it was taken? You upload winning pictures every day. Are you rich now?

In addition, I find your behavior just excuses the choice of words an insolence!

You hear one side of the coin and type on it right away?
It is well known in the forum that you do not like Hammerdammer. Now you see an attack surface and shoot straight off. Think you would have done the same if you had heard both sides

Meanwhile I have enough of your stichelein. You just shoot in every direction you can and block any kind of criticism. If necessary you end the disskusion when you can't find any arguments.

Even you have posted 2 weeks ago, that here are some on the road to post any spam just to get points this but would never admit when you address them on it. I think you are the parradebeispiel for it. Postest Gewinnbillder with extremely small Multiplier of it even very many but allegedly only because of the pictures here yes no is clear and almost every single post you wrote something about it. Sure you do not need the cards......

Oh no let me guess. is all sarcasm and irony again right? Because if someone points out your mistakes then you block directly and blame everyone but you. Is everything just meant as a joke or sarcastic or all the others have a problem if they do not understand my kind

Fasse yourself once on your nose before you attack other people. You often wrote things where I think to myself say times do not you see yourself, that you just describe yourself? Your post with the spam comments was the iDEAL example and only one of several
No matter who says something against you, the others are to blame.

oje, I have again allegedly said something against your darling and already she goes off like a furie
to call me a spammer and even under almost every picture write almost the same text --> yes even under mine, with your opinion after extremely small multiplier, you write --> is yes times a good win <-- or similar = says it all

You upload winning pictures every day. Are you rich now?

envious, yes I am

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Stealth
Rookie

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:08 pm CET#42
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@Avantgarde83 you have caused exactly the opposite by your help AND it was foreseeable. You have procured further addictive substances for an addict. How naive are you? Do you also buy liquor for an alcohol addict? It was already clear BEFORE that you will not see the money again. A gambling addict has no conscience and no honor. That comes only after the money is gone.

You have caused with your great help
- That you are probably no longer friends
- You have publicly pilloried him and everyone now has a bad image of him
- Him probably mentally further burdened

Great job really great.

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Anonym

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:13 pm CET#43
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PiaMia221 wrote on 23/03/2018 at 21:38: Hello Avantgarde83

I have a question about this. Apart from the fact that we only hear one side of the story here, what exactly do you expect from putting such private things online? The thought behind it interests me very much

The thought behind it...

ok, I'll give it a try:

First I must say myself that I was clear: something like this polarizes of course very much. I have no idea whether my decision is right or falxch is / was, because I'm also just a person who also as in this situation vll. rather "emotional" and in short circuit acts. First of all: I personally like Hammerdammer, otherwise I would not comment here or otherwise I would have given him nothing, and then again and again...

As already mentioned, I am concerned with the manner. I would have given him even more if there had been honesty and I had not felt screwed. I'm about the principle, not the money!

But concretely: I see this (even if it may not be right) as a kind of "wake up call" - regardless of how hard you have it in life, you have to take responsibility for your own actions and not always put yourself in the victim role. I mean it personally, quite honestly, not evil or that I mean him any harm. I would like the community to see that this is not how it works - this is what the consequences of gambling can look like. I honestly think that Hammer is a great person...only in addiction people lie, find excuses and do not recognize the problem. Eigtl I saw this as an "intervention". In my opinion, it can help to see that vll. others also see that something like this is not ok - addiction or not / problems or not.

But as I said, if it wasn't ok, feel free to delete the thread. Privately, I've already gotten to hear what people think of me because of the action. My intention was a good one, just like borrowing the money. I don't give a shit about the money, I want him to realize: he has to get off his ass and change something - reflect himself and not say "but you!".

Maybe someone here understands me, if not it's ok.

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Stromberg
Legend

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:14 pm CET#44
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Stealth wrote on 03/23/2018 at 10:08 pm: @Avantgarde83 you did the exact opposite by helping AND it was predictable. You provided further addictive substance to an addict. How naive are you? Do you buy liquor for an alcohol addict too? It was already clear BEFORE that you will not see the money again. A gambling addict has no conscience and no honor. That comes only after the money is gone.

You have caused with your great help
- That you are probably no longer friends
- You have publicly pilloried him and everyone now has a bad image of him
- Him probably mentally further burdened

Great job really great.

Stay loose, right?
Even if the result is as you describe it, the intention was certainly a good one.
This will certainly not happen to him again, no reason to fluff him for it.
Not everyone has experience in dealing with gambling addicts.
So I'm referring to borrowing money, not putting it online.

Actually, I did not want to say anything about it, so that's all

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RiverSong
Legend

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:16 pm CET#45
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Stealth wrote on 03/23/2018 at 10:08 pm: @Avantgarde83 you did the exact opposite by helping AND it was predictable. You provided further addictive substance to an addict. How naive are you? Do you buy liquor for an alcohol addict too? It was already clear BEFORE that you will not see the money again. A gambling addict has no conscience and no honor. That comes only after the money is gone.

You have caused with your great help
- That you are probably no longer friends
- You have publicly pilloried him and everyone now has a bad image of him
- Him probably mentally further burdened

Great job really great.

instead, we should open a thread and collect for him so that he can pay his debts and continue to collect so that he does not get out of his usual spielrythmus and never have to take responsibility for any money <3

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P****1

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:16 pm CET#46
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 03/23/2018 at 10:05 pm

geez, i supposedly said something against your darling again and already she goes off like a furie


Very interesting. So now Hammerdammer is my favorite? Haha exactly at Ronny1982 you had also written something similar. You still have Vivera and tby333 forgotten. Are all so a kind of secret alliance

to call me a spammer and even under almost every picture write almost the same text --> yes even under my, with your opinion extremely small Multiplier, you write --> is yes times a good win <-- or similar = says yes everything

You wrote this text yourself 2 weeks ago because you wanted to shoot again against others. i enrich you not so. That is a fact. Can deny that yes gladly but the attentive readers know it better by now with you!

You're not on my text with the irony and sarcasm entered at Vivvera above have had directly once again an example of how people you warnehmen and understand here just as little as on the part with the medals and that you do not like Hammerdammer anyway. Actually, even on 80% of my text.
Since you have only REPEATEDLY picked out the best places on which you can quickly answer as I see

You can turn this as you like. You are and remain a troll with a double standard as I could not have described better in a novel

So you know how it is, I will no longer (as you have often done) respond to your further texts on this. Will turn you anyway everything so right as you like otherwise I or the rest of the world have not understood you once again

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redriver67
Expert

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:16 pm CET#47
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Hammer doesn't need to comment here. What stress they have in their private lives is none of our business. I think they should sort it out among themselves.

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Anonym

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:17 pm CET#48
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Stealth wrote on 03/23/2018 at 10:08 pm: @Avantgarde83 you did the exact opposite by helping AND it was predictable. You provided further addictive substance to an addict. How naive are you? Do you buy liquor for an alcohol addict too? It was already clear BEFORE that you will not see the money again. A gambling addict has no conscience and no honor. That comes only after the money is gone.

You have caused with your great help
- That you are probably no longer friends
- You have publicly pilloried him and everyone now has a bad image of him
- Him probably mentally further burdened

Great job really great.

Have I read the book about psychological behavior of gambling addicts before? If you first only want good things for someone so that they can get something to eat, is that directly wrong? What do you want from me now? If a buddy begs you for money because he has nothing in the fridge, what do you do? Put yourself in the situation first before you start to talk to me about it...I have already said that I don't care about the money.

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tontoo2
Experienced

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:19 pm CET#49
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People, now "leave the church in the village".
It is very frustrating to have to run after your money for good deeds and favors. Avantgarde has written his frustration "from the soul" and there is nothing reprehensible about it. He has acted very nobly u magnanimously and in no way deserves to draw criticism.

I also enjoy reading Hammerdammer, it would be a shame if he were to disappear after this. Happens just, you can not pay back as promised, then comes the discomfort, excuses, silence. But it is not a "doomsday amount" and should be able to be regulated.

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Anonym

The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed

23rd Mar. 2018, at 10:21 pm CET#50
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I'm convinced that Ava didn't start this thread out of a desire for revenge - I also believe that Hammer originally intended to pay everything back. Even more I believe that he has really big problems at the moment. Man Hammer seek the conversation - I think it can still be turned around!

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