The never ending story - I am pissed off and disappointed
23rd Mar. 2018, at 05:41 pm CET#22
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That is annoying when you have to run after your own money. Despite everything, you should not forget to trust people, some should learn to be more trustworthy. Hope you get your money very soon.
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 05:54 pm CET#23
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Starwalker: Honestly, I also recently had to borrow 500 euros from a colleague because I had unfortunately managed badly.
Well, the difference will probably be - you know the colleague for a long time, see in more often & you are what the friendship!
Find it just sad that Avantgarde had to make this experience...
@Hammer pinch the ass cheeks together and bring this in order
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 06:40 pm CET#24
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whether you are a gambling addict or not, you can borrow money, but I find it more than reprehensible to load pictures and videos here instead of paying these debts.
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 07:22 pm CET#25
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 23/03/2018 at 18:40: whether gambling addict or not, you can borrow money, just find it more than reprehensible here munter pictures and videos to load instead of priority to settle this debt.
I finds then but also not so gentlemanly to kick again vigorously.
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 07:55 pm CET#26
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vivera365 wrote on 23/03/2018 at 19:22
Iseedeadpeople wrote on 23/03/2018 at 18:40: whether gambling addict or not, you can borrow money, just find it more than reprehensible here munter pictures and videos to load instead of priority to settle these debts.
I finds then but also not so gentlemanly to kick again vigorously.
oh I'm the bad one again
you should now treat him like a raw egg because he is the victim or how? and best avantgarde should not have started the topic at all? all right
I am a bit ambivalent here.
On the one hand, I can understand Avantgarde's frustration, I think here the human component prevails, since you know each other privately. on the other hand, I can not understand why you are made public here.
Of course it is humanly disappointing, if "friends" do not keep to agreements, of course one is then angry, but should one not settle this primarily with oneself and the person concerned?
To what extent are you yourself responsible for this situation?
You could have pulled the ripcord earlier by not "paying" the electricity bill, always knowing that the previous agreements were not kept.
You can't deny some personal responsibility in this regard, that's not meant in a bad way, it's just my point of view as a neutral person.
I too have lent a lot of money, always aware that I can theoretically write it off, but in this respect I am as naive as you and would lend what they need to any of my real friends and of course family, I could not reconcile this with my conscience of not having helped.
I am in the fortunate position that I am not dependent on the money, if it were gone, then it would be so, but would not worsen anything in the standard of quality of life, would just be the terrible loss of trust, which would not be outweighed by money.
Finally I see it in such a way that hammer is certainly not helped by the announcement, completely on the contrary, if he is like you say play addiction, I see here even the danger that he dives in it now completely, it is from shame you or the other members here.
I think that a forum like this one can help him to redefine his self-esteem (just because of the addiction), it can serve to exchange with like-minded people, because just with the addiction topic, the one understands best, who is affected by it himself.
I don't know how it looks in Hammer's private environment, but this forum will certainly also help him to maintain and build up social contacts or, as in your case, to meet privately.
I hope that he will not withdraw from this forum for fear of how others will see him now.
No one, really no one is helped if you now still on him, that is the last thing you should do, that it is currently not running smoothly for him, is obvious.
Everyone should be aware that he can always and at any time suddenly stand on the sidelines, then you are glad if someone, even if only emotionally, is there for you.
Finally, the question arises for me, why you have made this public and what were your motives for it.
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 08:01 pm CET#28
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 03/23/2018 at 19:55
vivera365 wrote on 03/23/2018 at 19:22
Iseedeadpeople wrote on 23/03/2018 at 18:40: whether gambling addict or not, you can borrow money, just find it more than reprehensible here munter pictures and videos to load instead of priority to settle these debts.
I finds then but also not so gentlemanly to kick again vigorously.
oh I'm the bad one again
you should now treat him like a raw egg because he is the victim or how? and best avantgarde should not have started the topic at all? all right
You are becoming unobjective - I have not said all that.But you do not always have to put one on top, right ?!
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23rd Mar. 2018, at 08:08 pm CET#29
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Dutch78 wrote on 03/23/2018 at 19:56: I'm a bit ambivalent here.
On the one hand, I can understand Avantgarde's frustration, I think the human component prevails here, knowing you privately. on the other hand, I can't understand why you're making this public.
Of course it is humanly disappointing, if "friends" do not keep to agreements, of course one is then angry, but should one not settle this primarily with oneself and the person concerned?
To what extent are you yourself responsible for this situation?
You could have pulled the ripcord earlier by not "paying" the electricity bill, always knowing that the previous agreements were not kept.
You can't deny some personal responsibility in this regard, that's not meant in a bad way, it's just my point of view as a neutral person.
I too have lent a lot of money, always aware that I can theoretically write it off, but in this respect I am as naive as you and would lend to any of my real friends and of course family what they need, I could not reconcile this with my conscience of not having helped.
I am in the fortunate position that I am not dependent on the money, if it were gone, then it would be so, but would not worsen anything in the standard of quality of life, would just be the terrible loss of trust, which would not be outweighed by money.
Finally, I see it so that Hammer is certainly not helped by the announcement, on the contrary, if he is addicted to gambling as you say, I see here even the danger that he is now completely immersed in it, be it out of shame you or the other members here.
I think that a forum like this one can help him to redefine his self-esteem (just because of the addiction), it can serve to exchange with like-minded people, because just with the addiction topic, the one understands best, who is affected by it himself.
I don't know how it looks in Hammer's private environment, but this forum will certainly also help him to maintain and build up social contacts or, as in your case, to meet in private.
I hope that he will not withdraw from this forum for fear of how others will see him now.
No one, really no one is helped if you now still on him, that is the last thing you should do, that it is currently not running smoothly for him, is obvious.
Everyone should be aware that he can always and at any time suddenly stand on the sidelines, then you are glad if someone, even if only emotionally, is there for you.
Finally, the question arises for me, why you have made this public and what were your motives for it.
Exactly my opinion I would not have made it public I would have rather talked to him again and if that would not have helped I would have written off the money. Money is not everything in life. There is a saying "If you don't like someone, lend him money and you will never see him again". I had once lent my best friend 5000.00 DM that I have not received until today but what is the worst, not the money I have lost, but our friendship.
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So, no one told you to use them...
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Well, the difference will probably be - you know the colleague for a long time, see in more often & you are what the friendship!
Find it just sad that Avantgarde had to make this experience...
@Hammer pinch the ass cheeks together and bring this in order
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I finds then but also not so gentlemanly to kick again vigorously.
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oh I'm the bad one again
you should now treat him like a raw egg because he is the victim or how? and best avantgarde should not have started the topic at all? all right
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On the one hand, I can understand Avantgarde's frustration, I think here the human component prevails, since you know each other privately. on the other hand, I can not understand why you are made public here.
Of course it is humanly disappointing, if "friends" do not keep to agreements, of course one is then angry, but should one not settle this primarily with oneself and the person concerned?
To what extent are you yourself responsible for this situation?
You could have pulled the ripcord earlier by not "paying" the electricity bill, always knowing that the previous agreements were not kept.
You can't deny some personal responsibility in this regard, that's not meant in a bad way, it's just my point of view as a neutral person.
I too have lent a lot of money, always aware that I can theoretically write it off, but in this respect I am as naive as you and would lend what they need to any of my real friends and of course family, I could not reconcile this with my conscience of not having helped.
I am in the fortunate position that I am not dependent on the money, if it were gone, then it would be so, but would not worsen anything in the standard of quality of life, would just be the terrible loss of trust, which would not be outweighed by money.
Finally I see it in such a way that hammer is certainly not helped by the announcement, completely on the contrary, if he is like you say play addiction, I see here even the danger that he dives in it now completely, it is from shame you or the other members here.
I think that a forum like this one can help him to redefine his self-esteem (just because of the addiction), it can serve to exchange with like-minded people, because just with the addiction topic, the one understands best, who is affected by it himself.
I don't know how it looks in Hammer's private environment, but this forum will certainly also help him to maintain and build up social contacts or, as in your case, to meet privately.
I hope that he will not withdraw from this forum for fear of how others will see him now.
No one, really no one is helped if you now still on him, that is the last thing you should do, that it is currently not running smoothly for him, is obvious.
Everyone should be aware that he can always and at any time suddenly stand on the sidelines, then you are glad if someone, even if only emotionally, is there for you.
Finally, the question arises for me, why you have made this public and what were your motives for it.
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You are becoming unobjective - I have not said all that.But you do not always have to put one on top, right ?!
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Exactly my opinion I would not have made it public I would have rather talked to him again and if that would not have helped I would have written off the money. Money is not everything in life. There is a saying "If you don't like someone, lend him money and you will never see him again". I had once lent my best friend 5000.00 DM that I have not received until today but what is the worst, not the money I have lost, but our friendship.
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have only facts reproduced, there is nothing with put on top
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