tamara wrote on 03/18/2018 at 01:32: Hello SonGoten, please get away from these thoughts. Sure it is a lot of money but you can get out of it...You should not have suicidal thoughts because of debt.
Unfortunately, I am seriously terminally ill and can move from day to day less, physical disability. I can't do anything on my own anymore, not even blowing my nose...Unfortunately I had to retire in my mid 30's = all body parts and organs stiffen up. You are young and you can still work...You can change your situation...
I would rather have the 50,000 EUR Debt but my health and independence.
Please stop with the thoughts, there are worse things in the world.
He has already come away from these thoughts, that was in 2017
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I would like to say a little something about all this:
It has also happened to me once that a stranger told me about his worries and suicidal thoughts over the Internet and then never contacted me again. This person was even in another country. Nevertheless, it worked to call the police and to describe the situation to them, they hit there at that time (so their colleagues in the other country) and just in time.
What I want to say: take such texts seriously. React. Better once too often than once too little.
Dear TE, I hope you are doing better than you were a few months ago.
tamara wrote on 03/18/2018 at 01:32: Hi SonGoten, please get away from these thoughts. Sure it is a lot of money but you can get out of that...You should not have suicidal thoughts because of debt.
Unfortunately, I am seriously terminally ill and can move from day to day less, physical disability. I can't do anything on my own anymore, not even blowing my nose...Unfortunately I had to retire in my mid 30's = all body parts and organs stiffen up. You are young and you can still work...You can change your situation...
I would rather have the 50,000 EUR Debt but my health and independence.
Please stop with the thoughts, there are worse things in the world.
He has already come away from these thoughts, That was in 2017
That the post is older, I discovered after my post:) Am glad that the colleague is still alive
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There's a mighty difference between thinking about suicide and actually doing it.
I am even of the opinion that a person himself should decide about his life and not the state.
If someone is terminally ill or has other mental ailments that cannot be alleviated, why does a state take the right to say that you may not decide about your life yourself?
That is also the whole flaw in the system.
Let's assume that there is someone who is firmly convinced that he does not want to continue living for whatever reason.
He does not let himself be dissuaded from it and does it.
Who if now to somebody says or writes, I would not like to live any more, how "do I it best" comes he with high probability into the psychiatry.
So he says to himself: Then I rather tell nothing but simply jump in front of the train (called "personal injury" and the train that is already delayed, delayed even more).
Or becomes a wrong-way driver on the highway, etc.
The result is that the candidate is dead (which he wanted anyway) but he has dragged in tens of other people who can do nothing for it.
As far as I know, this is a bit better regulated in other countries. Here in Germany, even as a seriously ill cancer patient with 2 amputated arms and legs, you are kept alive against your will.
How was that again with Basic Law Article 1 ?
Oh no, with the advent of temporary work, this law was deleted
Have a nice Sunday, gleich gibts delicious roast duck.
BabylonAD wrote on 03/18/2018 at 12:03 pm: There is a mighty difference between thinking about suicide and then actually doing it.
There's still a big difference between that. But I am depressed myself and the way he described it (not daring to leave the house anymore, not wanting to open the mail, etc.) I know from myself though, when I had my first really severe depressive episode. I didn't even understand that I was depressed and you can talk or write whatever you want, it's not possible to be convinced of the opposite in such a state. Therefore, in my opinion, it was a serious post. We do not log the IP addresses and then read the server logs and thank God at that time when the post was written was no one but the thread creator on GambleJoe on the road, so we could assign the IP address without a doubt. That was really a lucky guess. We discussed it a lot and thought about whether we should report it to the police or not, but then decided to do it because the TE had not replied to our email either.
I am even of the opinion that a person himself should decide about his life and not the state.
If someone is terminally ill or has other mental ailments that are not alleviable, why does a state take the right to say, you may not decide about your life.
Who if now to anyone says or writes, I do not want to live anymore, how "do I do it best" comes with high probability in the psychiatric ward.
So he says to himself: Then I rather tell nothing but just jump in front of the train (called "personal injury" and the train that is already delayed, delayed even more).
Or becomes a wrong-way driver on the highway, etc.
The result is that the candidate is dead (which he wanted anyway) but he has dragged in tens of other people who can do nothing for it.
One can be of this opinion and is certainly correct in one or the other case. But there is a big difference between an incurable cancer at an older age and a depression in his mid-20s - especially since the TE did not even try to get help. Today, depression is also easily treatable and if no one had helped me back then and had me committed, there would be no GambleJoe today
You could also say that if someone is drunk or drugged and wants to kill themselves in that state, let them and don't interfere. Nothing else is depression. There, similar to a drug intoxication, some substances in the brain do not harmonize properly and often you do not even recognize that you are sick.
For me it makes no difference if someone kills himself right away or if someone kills himself after he has been in a psychiatric ward. He can also jump in front of the train the first time and pull others in with him.
Anyway, I would like to close the topic, if nobody has something against it?
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Is interesting that this topic has lost "nothing in a player forum", but the other with the fundraising for the funeral that is probably something else ? Or was my contribution too critical of the wishful thinking of some ?
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Yes can be closed with pleasure. Small note, who wants to deal with the topic of depression, I recommend the book about Robert Enke!
BabylonAD wrote on 18/03/2018 at 13:04: Is interesting that this topic has lost "nothing in a players forum", but the other with the fundraising for the funeral that is probably something else ? Or was my contribution too critical of the wishful thinking of some ?
Such a topic has of course its rightful place in a gamers forum. Many gamblers are addicted to gambling and play because of depression (to alleviate it), but unfortunately accumulate debts, which does not make the suffering any better. So it's part and parcel of such a forum. Maybe this post will keep one or two gamers from killing themselves over a few debts.
If someone reads this and has the same thoughts, I can only advise him to get help. If you want to kill yourself anyway, you can always do it 1 - 3 months later, after you have at least tried to get help and are in your right mind. And debts are in my opinion no reason to kill yourself. No matter if it is 1.000€ Debt or 1.000.000.000€ debt. Debts are extinguished after 7 years. If one makes an insolvency in the UK, then these are extinguished even after one year. You also don't need to have a bad conscience, because this economic system is anyway built up in such a way (keyword interest and compound interest) that even if everyone would live sensibly and no one would make mistakes, there would still be people in the end who would be in debt.
@BabylonAD your opinion is not critical in my opinion and I think that is why this thread should not be closed. I just think that enough has already been said on this topic.
@BabylonAD your opinion is not critical in my opinion and I think that's why this thread should not be closed. I just think that enough has already been said on this topic.
then close it, play should also be fun and if some unfortunately slip deeper and deeper there are better options than just a gamble forum.
my gambling addiction and suicidal thoughts.
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He has already come away from these thoughts, that was in 2017
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my gambling addiction and suicidal thoughts.
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It has also happened to me once that a stranger told me about his worries and suicidal thoughts over the Internet and then never contacted me again. This person was even in another country. Nevertheless, it worked to call the police and to describe the situation to them, they hit there at that time (so their colleagues in the other country) and just in time.
What I want to say: take such texts seriously. React. Better once too often than once too little.
Dear TE, I hope you are doing better than you were a few months ago.
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my gambling addiction and suicidal thoughts.
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That the post is older, I discovered after my post:) Am glad that the colleague is still alive
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my gambling addiction and suicidal thoughts.
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I am even of the opinion that a person himself should decide about his life and not the state.
If someone is terminally ill or has other mental ailments that cannot be alleviated, why does a state take the right to say that you may not decide about your life yourself?
That is also the whole flaw in the system.
Let's assume that there is someone who is firmly convinced that he does not want to continue living for whatever reason.
He does not let himself be dissuaded from it and does it.
Who if now to somebody says or writes, I would not like to live any more, how "do I it best" comes he with high probability into the psychiatry.
So he says to himself: Then I rather tell nothing but simply jump in front of the train (called "personal injury" and the train that is already delayed, delayed even more).
Or becomes a wrong-way driver on the highway, etc.
The result is that the candidate is dead (which he wanted anyway) but he has dragged in tens of other people who can do nothing for it.
As far as I know, this is a bit better regulated in other countries. Here in Germany, even as a seriously ill cancer patient with 2 amputated arms and legs, you are kept alive against your will.
How was that again with Basic Law Article 1 ?
Oh no, with the advent of temporary work, this law was deleted
Have a nice Sunday, gleich gibts delicious roast duck.
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Because it is a difficult topic and here is a Gamble Forum
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There's still a big difference between that. But I am depressed myself and the way he described it (not daring to leave the house anymore, not wanting to open the mail, etc.) I know from myself though, when I had my first really severe depressive episode. I didn't even understand that I was depressed and you can talk or write whatever you want, it's not possible to be convinced of the opposite in such a state. Therefore, in my opinion, it was a serious post. We do not log the IP addresses and then read the server logs and thank God at that time when the post was written was no one but the thread creator on GambleJoe on the road, so we could assign the IP address without a doubt. That was really a lucky guess. We discussed it a lot and thought about whether we should report it to the police or not, but then decided to do it because the TE had not replied to our email either.
One can be of this opinion and is certainly correct in one or the other case. But there is a big difference between an incurable cancer at an older age and a depression in his mid-20s - especially since the TE did not even try to get help. Today, depression is also easily treatable and if no one had helped me back then and had me committed, there would be no GambleJoe today
You could also say that if someone is drunk or drugged and wants to kill themselves in that state, let them and don't interfere. Nothing else is depression. There, similar to a drug intoxication, some substances in the brain do not harmonize properly and often you do not even recognize that you are sick.
For me it makes no difference if someone kills himself right away or if someone kills himself after he has been in a psychiatric ward. He can also jump in front of the train the first time and pull others in with him.
Anyway, I would like to close the topic, if nobody has something against it?
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my gambling addiction and suicidal thoughts.
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Such a topic has of course its rightful place in a gamers forum. Many gamblers are addicted to gambling and play because of depression (to alleviate it), but unfortunately accumulate debts, which does not make the suffering any better. So it's part and parcel of such a forum. Maybe this post will keep one or two gamers from killing themselves over a few debts.
If someone reads this and has the same thoughts, I can only advise him to get help. If you want to kill yourself anyway, you can always do it 1 - 3 months later, after you have at least tried to get help and are in your right mind. And debts are in my opinion no reason to kill yourself. No matter if it is 1.000€ Debt or 1.000.000.000€ debt. Debts are extinguished after 7 years. If one makes an insolvency in the UK, then these are extinguished even after one year. You also don't need to have a bad conscience, because this economic system is anyway built up in such a way (keyword interest and compound interest) that even if everyone would live sensibly and no one would make mistakes, there would still be people in the end who would be in debt.
@BabylonAD your opinion is not critical in my opinion and I think that is why this thread should not be closed. I just think that enough has already been said on this topic.
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then close it, play should also be fun and if some unfortunately slip deeper and deeper there are better options than just a gamble forum.
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