Gambling addiction in general: Money gambled away despite OASIS lockout

BetProfi wrote on 07.09.2023 at 23:07: Hello dear community,

i have had a huge problem with Gambling addiction over the last year. Since I am not allowed to participate in any gambling due to an OASIS ban that has been running for about 2 years by now, I was still able to participate in the sports betting experience through detours. I secretly logged into my brother's accounts, because I still knew his passwords from before and they have not changed. I deposited with the Paysafecard function, where I also used my brother's account (same password). So I was constantly buying Paysafecards online with my Pay Pal account and then depositing the code through my brother's account. Now my gambling addiction drove me again to the point that I gambled away a total of almost €10,000 last year. Now my question is whether it is possible to get this loss refunded, since I actually have an OASIS block on licensed providers. Especially since I paid for the Paysafe codes using my own name and redeemed them with the sports betting providers. I'm actually the type to be honest with myself and also say betting debts are debts of honor. But that was no longer betting, that was just the addiction that had me completely under control... I have now drawn a line 4 weeks ago, in which I have stopped smoking, gambling and mentally build me up again. However, from the gambled money was a lot of money that I myself was not entitled. (I do not want to go into more detail, because I am too ashamed). That is why it is so important to me to know whether one would have success in this case with a refund or not.
I can only recommend everyone to stop gambling immediately! Any kind of addiction should be avoided! I used to laugh at addicts, now I know what it really means.

I ask for help regarding this case and thank you for your understanding!

LG

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gamble1 wrote on 08/09/2023 at 00:34 PM:

There would be of course the possibility if your brother says you have gambled away his money but then he would have to report you first and the report he would have to present to the Provider then he also gets that refunded

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BetProfi wrote on 08/09/2023 at 09:07:
Thank you for the reply!


Well that the chances are not high, I already know.

I know what you mean and have the same thought. However, it looks a bit different with legal matters. In fact, you are absolutely right with your statement, but I could imagine that in this case it would be said that the injured party acted in a mentally incompetent state. And that I paid with the PSC to play is more than obvious. The purchases are black on white and the deposits were made via my smartphone, as if this evidence is not clear that I gambled. Sure it was not my account, but the money came also not from my brother, so from his bank accounts, etc. are yes no debits? That's what I mean, with legal things it's a bit more complicated, logical thinking is unfortunately not enough... But I understand your approach. That's why I was hoping if anyone had or knows a similar case...?

My own fault it is anyway 😁
I openly admit to that mistake as well, no question about it. It's just that once you're in that addictive state, I didn't recognize myself and had no control over anything.

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BetProfi wrote on 08.09.2023 at 09:16:

Are you a lawyer? Because in legal matters you don't actually start with the evidence, but first clarify the legal issues or legally assess the overall situation. I have my tax advisor exam in a year and therefore know very well, but mainly with tax facts.

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Andre wrote on 08/09/2023 at 13:51: You don't have to answer this, but I'm interested to know if your brother didn't notice anything? With Paysafecard you always get an email after the deposit.

In the terms and conditions of the Provider it also states that you may not play via third party accounts, which is contrary to a refund. I quote from the Tipico terms and conditions point 2.6.4

" you use the services in your own name and in your own interest and not in representation or on behalf of another"

You do not need to be ashamed of your actions, I think such an addictive pressure is really bad and simply a disease. I think it's good that you opened up here like this and if you need further help feel free to contact the staff at the counseling centers we have at the bottom of the page. The HuKu Cologne, for example, offers an online chat where you can get help free of charge and anonymously and just talk to a neutral person.

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Peter8 wrote on 08.09.2023 at 20:52:

He had the same password for all services

I asked myself the same question but with 10k he must have access to the mails as well
Otherwise who noticed it as you say, and usually the casino also sends you a confirmation.

Time what of me on the subject of addiction pressure, had a good 3 weeks ago extreme desire to play at the machine
And it just escalated
In the end I have lost nothing
But I only wanted to gamble away 20 in the end I've got a lot more in there
Am then but without loss raus
The next day I was again aware of how strong the loss of control is actually if then alcohol is still in the game disaster

Here oasis has protected me from myself in any case because I was only in a bar with 2 machines, in the arcade who went out quite differently
The thought that the spielos are taboo, is for me personally a blessing and keeps one away

Again what to the ts
You have to find out what triggers you
Time to go into you find out what it is that makes you so the people and yourself to manipulate.

You said that it was no longer about winning but only blunt betting. I'm not a therapist but that says a lot and I'm talking from experience.
As mentioned above, support iz there
Always good to talk to professionals

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Falko wrote on 08.09.2023 at 23:04:

In pubs you can still play on the machine without problems if you are locked on Oasis ?

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Lionking wrote on 08/09/2023 at 23:43:Ne actually not, at least if you follow the law.

The machines have to be unlocked first.
Was recently times in ner pub, there was my ID scanned by cell phone by the employee, only when a green tick was shown on your display you have me the "box" unlocked.

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Falko wrote on 08.09.2023 at 23:04:

In pubs you can still play on the machine without problems if you are locked on Oasis ?

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