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Loss of control would still be nice
18th Sep. 2018, at 04:46 pm CEST#11
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Random wrote on 09/18/2018 at 4:16 pm
And that's exactly what I mean.
Of course it is not the easiest thing in the world but here in the forum it is often presented as if it is almost impossible.
And many take it then also as an excuse here so after the motto I am just seriously ill and therefore it takes decades until I get away from it.
But what people don't understand is that they don't get away from it mainly because they don't really want to.
Because that would mean change and change is often painful.
That's the way it is. It feels like every day you hear: scam, rip-off, I'll never play again, etc. and above all: blah, blah, blah.
If I knowingly get cheated and ripped off and still continue, it's not the casinos fault or stupid, it's me being a complete idiot. No more and no less
Just complaining and not changing anything usually does not lead to success.
Remains that I have an animal problem with it when an addiction (I'm a gambling addict, 7 digit lost!) is glorified even in any way!
May be that the one or the other can stop there from today to tomorrow with it, however, these are only very rare - and I know exactly what I'm talking about,
but they are hardly the rule
Pathological gamblers are the first in no case, at least not in my eyes...so that can stop overnight, but of this the GI also does not live!
I know just the other side very well, where there are destroyed family, whole livelihoods have been lost, procurement crime, people who have killed themselves etc etc.
But if you don't know anything about addiction, if you don't really know what's going on in a gambler's mind, you argue a lot like you do.
This is not meant to be insulting...but if Gambling addiction is a recognized disease in the FRG, there are clinics for it as well as for the alkies or drug addicts (also not a few) in raw quantities addiction therapists, then the problem seems to be a bit bigger than "stop it"?
Why there is probably gambling laws, or do you mean to just point out that may be played only from 18?
To shorten the times something (then you can continue to gamble ) proven over 250000 thousand pathological and the same number of problem gamblers (the dark figure far greater) speak just a very different language than you.
Now the positive...as a player have thought the same as you!!!
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Loss of control would still be nice
18th Sep. 2018, at 05:31 pm CEST#13
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You may be right in everything, you can also consult expensive psyhiater ubd therapists. You can go to rehab. Nobody doubts that it is a recognized addiction
But just like a smoker or a drinker, the goal is to quit. With pills, for example, I know that in rehab they put you on cold turkey. And that's a lot harder, because you get pain, hallucinations, panic and anxiety attacks
Withdrawal is hard, but in the end you won't get around it. I don't think much of all the reducing, because the brain still gets its dose
So either you pull out all the stops, go to therapy, psychologist and so on, or you try to stop yourself, because you have gambled enough. These are not insurmountable tasks
Let's get this straight
I did not want to complain here in the first place about casinos. After all, I am somewhere even with gambling problem a thinking person and know the moment I open the door to a casino that it is a stupid idea. Everyone should play who wants, but it is my decision now to draw a line under it and to check off the coal as probably the most expensive lesson in my life.
I have opened this thread to simply get reports from people who have already SUCCESSFULLY made it and especially HOW they did it.
If you've never tried or done something before, it certainly doesn't hurt to get experience from people who have
Even with therapy, the relapse rate is supposed to be what 60%?
So despite everything it seems to be not sooo easy to stop just like that
The will is there. What I have written as measures should only support it. In addition I must learn somewhere again to deal with money correctly.
Whoever simply squeezes 500 euros and upwards away or pushes it away, hardly has a realistic relationship to money...
Greeting
Bleach
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18th Sep. 2018, at 05:42 pm CEST#15
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You're absolutely right.
I have done it.
I quit from one day to the next because
i can't take it anymore, being screwed from top to bottom. I'm convinced that casinos can do a lot more than they admit, and that made my step easier.
A little over 20 years gambled.
In addition, family, which also wants to be fed. You can no longer gamble, it only brings problems!
First week was hard, then it goes.
At the moment no demand at all.
And if you see how often there are problems with the payout, my demand goes into the minus area
Minus area.
and here in the thread I wanted to actually only @Bleach speech and answer.
Especially I have the contribution of @Zockertyp89 in relation to this thread not gerallt.
Fraud or BlaBlaBla is not the topic here at all!
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Loss of control would still be nice
18th Sep. 2018, at 06:15 pm CEST#17
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So @Random @Strike every person is different and takes it differently. I also find it extremely addictive and I also quit smoking and found it 1000 times easier. It also depends on whether it has clicked in your head and you are ready for it. My thoughts while playing and depositing I do not want to impose on anyone, if you play just that you play without fun times quickly sink a 100s you are addicted and it is a disease some make it, some just not, some just later. But to say that it is your own fault and that you are an idiot etc. because you play is not dignified of you. It's a recognized disease and not without reason, gambling doesn't destroy your body like other drugs but it destroys your soul and psyche.
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18th Sep. 2018, at 06:44 pm CEST#18
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That's right, qwertee. But in the end it will come down to stopping. The faster, the better. That's why I took myself as an example.
Of course, everyone is a different type, and must find his way!
He had asked how people here have managed it. With me it was just so. But I know that this is not representative of all players!
P.S. I found smoking harder
Even much harder.
I also have not insulted him.
I said that Random is ultimately right in saying that only quitting directly has the greatest chance of success in my opinion
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Loss of control would still be nice
18th Sep. 2018, at 06:48 pm CEST#19
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I had stopped cold turkey for half a year and then it degenerated into an absolute conteollberlust. Now I play with my fixed limits that works quite well. The mistake is if you want to limit yourself, you must not set the limit to 10 € but rather take the 100 €, if the limit is too low, the Risk is very high that you sign up in a new casino. That helps me but everyone finds his way!
I think the others are right... fixed limits I guess like smoking less... that just doesn't work (for long). I stick to the radical method.
Anyway thanks for your/thanks for your answers...:)
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That's the way it is. It feels like every day you hear: scam, rip-off, I'll never play again, etc. and above all: blah, blah, blah.
If I knowingly get cheated and ripped off and still continue, it's not the casinos fault or stupid, it's me being a complete idiot. No more and no less
Just complaining and not changing anything usually does not lead to success.
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Loss of control would still be nice
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Remains that I have an animal problem with it when an addiction (I'm a gambling addict, 7 digit lost!) is glorified even in any way!
May be that the one or the other can stop there from today to tomorrow with it, however, these are only very rare - and I know exactly what I'm talking about,
but they are hardly the rule
Pathological gamblers are the first in no case, at least not in my eyes...so that can stop overnight, but of this the GI also does not live!
I know just the other side very well, where there are destroyed family, whole livelihoods have been lost, procurement crime, people who have killed themselves etc etc.
But if you don't know anything about addiction, if you don't really know what's going on in a gambler's mind, you argue a lot like you do.
This is not meant to be insulting...but if Gambling addiction is a recognized disease in the FRG, there are clinics for it as well as for the alkies or drug addicts (also not a few) in raw quantities addiction therapists, then the problem seems to be a bit bigger than "stop it"?
Why there is probably gambling laws, or do you mean to just point out that may be played only from 18?
To shorten the times something (then you can continue to gamble ) proven over 250000 thousand pathological and the same number of problem gamblers (the dark figure far greater) speak just a very different language than you.
Now the positive...as a player have thought the same as you!!!
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But just like a smoker or a drinker, the goal is to quit. With pills, for example, I know that in rehab they put you on cold turkey. And that's a lot harder, because you get pain, hallucinations, panic and anxiety attacks
Withdrawal is hard, but in the end you won't get around it. I don't think much of all the reducing, because the brain still gets its dose
So either you pull out all the stops, go to therapy, psychologist and so on, or you try to stop yourself, because you have gambled enough. These are not insurmountable tasks
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I did not want to complain here in the first place about casinos. After all, I am somewhere even with gambling problem a thinking person and know the moment I open the door to a casino that it is a stupid idea. Everyone should play who wants, but it is my decision now to draw a line under it and to check off the coal as probably the most expensive lesson in my life.
I have opened this thread to simply get reports from people who have already SUCCESSFULLY made it and especially HOW they did it.
If you've never tried or done something before, it certainly doesn't hurt to get experience from people who have
Even with therapy, the relapse rate is supposed to be what 60%?
So despite everything it seems to be not sooo easy to stop just like that
The will is there. What I have written as measures should only support it. In addition I must learn somewhere again to deal with money correctly.
Whoever simply squeezes 500 euros and upwards away or pushes it away, hardly has a realistic relationship to money...
Greeting
Bleach
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I have done it.
I quit from one day to the next because
i can't take it anymore, being screwed from top to bottom. I'm convinced that casinos can do a lot more than they admit, and that made my step easier.
A little over 20 years gambled.
In addition, family, which also wants to be fed. You can no longer gamble, it only brings problems!
First week was hard, then it goes.
At the moment no demand at all.
And if you see how often there are problems with the payout, my demand goes into the minus area
Minus area.
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Loss of control would still be nice
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and here in the thread I wanted to actually only @Bleach speech and answer.
Especially I have the contribution of @Zockertyp89 in relation to this thread not gerallt.
Fraud or BlaBlaBla is not the topic here at all!
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Loss of control would still be nice
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Of course, everyone is a different type, and must find his way!
He had asked how people here have managed it. With me it was just so. But I know that this is not representative of all players!
P.S. I found smoking harder
Even much harder.
I also have not insulted him.
I said that Random is ultimately right in saying that only quitting directly has the greatest chance of success in my opinion
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Anyway thanks for your/thanks for your answers...:)
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