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Gambling addiction in general: Loss of control would still be nice

Topic created on 18th Sep. 2018 | Page: 1 of 3 | Answers: 20 | Views: 7,181
Bleach
Hello all,

i don't think anything helps anymore... I have to admit it to myself... I am highly addicted to gambling

Although I have already gambled away the month my entire salary (- rent, after all) within a few days, I could not resist again today. I earned extra money next to work to be at least back within my budget I drove past my spielothek and yes guess what ... again all gone... if I would add up what I've put the last few years in any sh* machines then I think I'm at nen 6-digit amount rankratze...I can no longer just "20 euros " play... everything I have at the moment I enter an arcade is gone within a few hours. I also don't itch to play a hall alone anymore if I have to. I can't describe when and where it got so awesome. Sure now and then I had again higher wins 1-3 k but they were actually only used to extinguish the fire or completely gambled away again. And since one knows that also with such an amount nothing is won, it makes also actually no more fun to play... perhaps the automats do not run always worse, perhaps I do not notice only that if I press a ladder up once that for others a win would be - for me that is only "movement money". If I myself have no money to play, then I watch others online ...

Is it at such a stage at all still possible that one gets this in the grasp ? Are there people here who have ever managed to never enter an arcade again after something like this? Or will the thought of gambling accompany me all my life? ...

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Theone87
Experienced
I would call that gambling in any case, if you gamble away so much that it no longer works with the rent or only just.
I can only recommend you to stay away from Spielos, was also about 6 years addicted in my way, I met with buddies and had fun but I could hardly wait until someone finally said come let's go to the Spielo. Later I also went alone to casinos and burned a lot of money, almost 6 digits which is a lot of money for me... if I had it now I would be fine.

Meanwhile I'm married and have a daughter, my buddy with whom I was mostly always has little time for such things, when we meet we hardly go and if only with 20 € times for fun pure.

You have to have something else that distracts you and at some point the desire goes away by itself, I made the mistake now to play more in OCs because it just went too well with me at my first deposits and thought that's a good source of money... later you lose but mostly as in the Spielos also.

The best thing you can do would be to leave your bank card at home when you are on the road, take a fixed sum with you then you can not suffer a loss of control.

And if you play online a lot, block your credit card, delete Paypal... and don't leave any money on your online banking account

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
Bleach wrote on 09/18/2018 at 02:28: Hello everyone,

Is it even possible at such a stage that you can handle it yourself ? Are there people here who have ever managed to never enter an arcade again after something like this ? Or will the thought of gambling accompany me all my life ...

Hey Bleach,

for the most part, a gambler very rarely gets a handle on it on his own.
Gambling addiction is a recognized -but also an ever-progressing disease, that is unless it is brought to a halt.
In the end, it often leads to suicide in the downward spiral.
(In relation to all other people at Risk of suicide, we are in first place with our addiction)

The best possible thing you can/could accomplish in your current "as-is" state is to bring your addiction to a halt.
But just as with other diseases - and especially with serious diseases (our addiction is a serious and not to be underestimated "recognized" disease) it requires predominantly help from the outside.

Our medicine: e.g. a therapy, ambulant or stationary,
but many have also been helped by a SHG (self-help group for gambling addicts), me personally a SHG and SHF (self-help forum for gambling addicts).

As for your thoughts about gambling, everything your brain can remember will accompany you!

I wonder if anyone has managed to never go to a gambling hall again?
I can only speak of myself, of course,
i've been playing in arcades for over 30 years, the last 10 years excessively...
sunk my last euro in 2012.

I would like to add that quitting is anything but easy (the relapse rate is very very high),
but if you take the time you have played on the machine - and now in turn to "non-playing" strive, then "gambling free" is actually nothing in the way.

If you still have questions...go ahead

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Anonym
Of course it is possible not to play anymore, I have not deposited now for 2 days (I know very long time) and the desire has already decreased significantly. During the game I feel differently, but after the game I can sort out my thoughts at least briefly. But you will be angry for a long time because of the losses, you may have the thoughts to want to win everything back again - but these are every thoughts that almost sent me into the abyss as well. Two days ago I was already cleaning out my savings account, but miraculously I let it go (fortunately).

That was my moment where I could say I am 100% no longer "normal" and must change something. For you something has to change too, there is the possibility of cold turkey and that means you don't gamble at all from now on. Some people find this difficult, so they continue to play with limits, but this is also a game with fire - some can control themselves better and others lose control. Limits don't help, because as soon as something rather unexpected happens, you're stuck with it. For example, the money is gone after just 10 minutes, usually it's at least enough for hours - then you want to keep going. At some point you just play and are not satiated until you have gambled/won enough. The whole thing repeats itself every day and becomes more and more extreme. I'm currently trying to "treat" myself, but with me it's never gotten to the point where I've gambled away the whole paycheck - but could have happened quickly if I hadn't given in. It is very amazing how we gradually push the limit down further and further ("At 500 € I pay out... at 400 €....at 50 € ..."). Once you get the idea of paying out almost you should enforce it consistently (for all I care you can leave yourself a tiny part to play with, but not all - that makes you play more risky because you have "enough bankroll").

I don't know if you can keep yourself under control, if possible drive around the casino or some other route. Consider a conversation with a psychologist or a counseling center and no they do not laugh at you, there are also places where you can go even just 1-2x to open up and then make suggestions to you. This remains all in private and can really do very very good. Especially the time you are there, you are not in the casino and so you can also visit friends or family more often and do something. Just try to distract, you didn't have to write it off forever - but until you get everything in order financially + a few months break should be in there at least. You can consider in the time how you want to proceed, with limit or not even start again. You can get 4 tickets from the kiosk and every time you think about going to the casino you scratch one of the 0,50 € tickets and remember where your money went - of course you shouldn't buy 1000 tickets

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Bleach
Hello again,

thanks for your answers... i think i will try cold turkey for now
Get my family on board, even if I am ashamed to admit how much I gamble away (and that I gamble)
From OC I have so far deliberately left the fingers, because I was always clear that would be my ruin by the high
Deposits and stakes that you can play there. We are in a group often times in casinos in the CZ driven and there was the desire already there, but I had me still then so far in the handle that I have played only certain limits or have paid out at fixed amounts
But since you have to travel relatively far to get there, it is not always available in contrast to OC
Since the game was still fun.... Now I would no longer trust myself so far...

I will first block myself in all casinos around my home and work... My EC cards (without PIN ) give to my relatives and keep only one with a weekly limit of 200 euros for gas, tobacco, food / drink other. I hope that the radical way leads to success...
Should I then but once need a larger amount I can, until I can control myself, yes still transfer or the like...

I've been gambling for over 10 years but I would say it's only been the last 2-3 years that it's really gotten bad. Instead of dealing with personal problems I went to play ... and the wins were at the beginning usually very high and losses rarely... But at some point came the point where I was known as the guy who immediately on 2 € up, all free machines plays... and also the losses rose and rise, as yesterday just 600 € within 1.5 hours

Greetings
Bleach

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Anonym
Oh man, when I already read something like that.

You know what the main problem is. That you like to convince yourselves that you are seriously ill and that it is so hard to stop.
Everyone who is honest with himself knows exactly whether he will stop or not.
If the will to do so is not there, then all measures will not help.
And if you have really understood it and can draw a line under it, you don't need any special measures anymore.

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
Random wrote on 09/18/2018 at 1:23 pm: Oh man, just reading something like this.

Do you know what the main problem is. That you like to tell yourselves that you are seriously ill and that it is so hard to stop.

Yeah no it's clear, what planet are you from @Random?

And before you continue to give such nonsense from you,
i would recommend you to inform yourself in detail about "addiction"!
Otherwise to let implant some brain, somehow you seem to have a huge gap up there


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Anonym
Ichbins2018 wrote on 09/18/2018 at 2:03 PM
Yeah nah it's clear, what planet are you from @Random?

And before that you continue to give such bullshit from you,
i would recommend you to inform yourself in detail regarding "addiction"!
Otherwise to let implant some brain, somehow you seem to have a huge gap up there



Yes, of course, I play only since the day before yesterday.

And I certainly don't have to be insulted by you. There you can still put so many smilies to weaken it. And you should then take seriously.

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s****e
In the end, Random is right.
The will has to be there.
And cold turkey is practiced for many addictions
many addictions.

Stop for a week and it wears off.
Speaking from personal experience.

I think it is the same as smoking.
The first days are the most critical, then it goes.

I have gone through both, and both by direct
Withdrawal to zero
Anyone can do that.

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Anonym
stkrie wrote on 09/18/2018 at 16:06: Ultimately, Random is right.
The will has to be there.
And cold turkey is practiced for many addictions
practiced.

Stop for a week and it wears off.
Speaking from personal experience.

I think it is the same as smoking.
The first days are the most critical, then it goes.

I have gone through both, and both by direct
Withdrawal to zero
Anyone can do that.

And that is exactly what I mean.
Of course it is not the easiest thing in the world, but here in the forum it is often presented as if it were almost impossible.
And many people take it as an excuse, like I am very sick and therefore it will take decades until I can get away from it.
But what people don't understand is that they don't get away from it mainly because they don't really want to.
Because that would mean change and change is often painful.

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