Gambling addiction in general: Gambling addiction (Page 2)

abc123 wrote on 04.02.2020 at 18:57
Hey, 5000€ is a hell of a lot of money, before I won those 40 my highest win was 7000, anyway, unfortunately you are right about money being extremely for almost everyone. Important and it is generally difficult to gain wealth in a normal way.

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CharlyQ wrote on 05.02.2020 at 13:04
Hi all,

so you are really extremely addicted to gambling. Sorry, I don't want to offend anyone, but you really need professional help. To think that sometime the Big Win in life comes, is unfortunately a misconception. What is even a bigger misconception is that you can win really good at slots. Sure you can win, but honestly how much have you paid in and what is the bottom line? Most of the time you make a big loss. I also stand by my statement that slots are the biggest scam there is. This is not only true for OC but also for real games in the casino or the casino. These machines are already programmed by the manufacturer to pay out only a certain amount within a certain period of time. If the machine is e.g. empty because the predecessor has won, then the equipment eats only.In addition, each operator of a gaming house can freely adjust what each machine should pay out on the day, or not at all.I think you can also say the smaller the gaming house is, the lower the wins are. If it were the other way around and all the world would only win, then such a small game pharmacy would be very quickly broke.

With Online Casinos is cheated that the beams bend, because there is no control. The MGA is supposed to exist, but these controls are rather lax. Malta and Cyprus are very corrupt islands. with money you can buy anything there and thus also a license for an OC.

I myself only play roulette. Of course you can lose there, but if you only play with a small stake and are not too greedy, then you have a pretty good chance of winning of almost 50 percent. Can not really complain, a few hundred euros I make every month with it. the whole thing is dangerous if you also play there with too high a stake.

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abc123 wrote on 09.02.2020 at 18:09
Sorry to say this but you really have 0 plan how much to win/lose or on what stakes to play, please inform first then give opinion

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Andy_1980 wrote on 09.02.2020 at 20:38
of course I know that you can play on 100 euros / spin and 100,000 euros online within a few minutes to gamble. But you have to have the money first. I'm just surprised that there are people who have thousands of euros just to gamble away. The money usually does not come from legal sources. That's why no casino will ever pay out such high wins, even if you are not verified. There is also no legal claim to it. Here in the forum, enough people write that they do not get paid even with a win of 1,000 euros. It also makes no sense to simply Deposit high amounts somewhere.

It runs but in the end at all casinos the same, in the beginning you get 10 euros free, then it runs up to about 1,000 euros, but you never get the money, you can pay out maybe 50 or 100 euros. But even that's a lot of money and it's enough to get you hooked and then you start depositing your own money. And then it never works again, maybe once a year, you get to 50 or 100 euros win, when you have 1,000 euros of your own money but at least already deposited.

Normally it should be generally forbidden, the online game, it is actually also, it is just tolerated. But the addiction is a serious disease and makes many people totally broken, psychologically and physically and many then just commit serious crimes to get more money.

In the worst case, you end up permanently in a closed psychiatric ward because of such crap, and that is certainly not worth it.
It goes on until you are homeless, don't have a cent for food, all accounts have been cancelled by the banks, etc. Only then can you get clean and stop using. Only then can you get clean and stop.

In addition, most banks now also pay more attention to it, if they notice that too high transactions to and from dubious casinos often take place, they can also immediately terminate or block all accounts. Recently, there have been cases where even accounts have been blocked because of winnings payments of 50 euros or less. It is just black money and with high sums, the banks are obliged to report it to the authorities. Then you can really get real problems and even jail or forensics in the worst case.

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Andy_1980 wrote on 09.02.2020 at 15:37: So honestly, I do not really believe that, or can not imagine it. Where does one have so much money from anyway, and then also to be able to gamble it away? Most people have to work hard, have 2 or 3 euros hourly wage. There it hurts already very much, if one gambled away again times 10 or 20 euro, thus with me at least that is so. And today you don't get more than 100 Euro win in any OC, no matter how much you pay in. In the past, maybe 10 years ago, the autonats in the Spielos were still running with an RTP of 60 percent. With the OC's the probability to win is big but still much lower. There are so-called affiliates, which get hefty commission for everyone who deposits. Let's say someone deposits 100 euros in an OC, the advertiser already gets at least 90 percent of that, the casino also wants to earn, etc. So if you can withdraw 10 to 20 percent of your deposits online with luck, that's a lot. The probability of winning 40k is much lower than hitting the Jackpot in the lottery, .... and even people who are lucky once and have won a few hundred euros in the OC, often have problems with the payout, because online gambling is illegal in Germany (except Schleswig-Holstein), so no casino is obliged to pay out at all. The 40k win, if it is true, you would NEVER have received in life and also can not sue.
With luck, smaller wins up to 100 or 200 euros are paid out by most OC's but without any problems. You can't win much more on the slots anyway.

I just can't imagine that someone can gamble away thousands of euros just like that online, even a win of 10 or 20 euros is rare, and should be paid out immediately if you are lucky. I always calculate it in working hours, if you earn 2 euros / hour, 20 euros are already 10 hours of hard work, and you can buy a lot of food for it and live well 1 week.

Many people do not even have 100 euros a month available, and look for their food from the garbage, etc..

This is really awesome, and sourl addiction is the worst addiction of all addictions. You can only stop gambling when you have already lost EVERYTHING, are homeless, and don't have a single cent left.

It already makes me afraid, and bad conscience etc. that I have gambled away this WE again times 20 euros and think all the time about what I could have bought everything from it.

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Andy_1980 wrote on 09.02.2020 at 15:37: So honestly, I do not really believe that, or can not imagine it. Where does one have so much money from anyway, and then also to be able to gamble it away? Most people have to work hard, have 2 or 3 euros hourly wage. There it hurts already very much, if one gambled away again times 10 or 20 euro, thus with me at least that is so. And today you don't get more than 100 Euro win in any OC, no matter how much you pay in. In the past, maybe 10 years ago, the autonats in the Spielos were still running with an RTP of 60 percent. With the OC's the probability to win is big but still much lower. There are so-called affiliates, which get hefty commission for everyone who deposits. Let's say someone deposits 100 euros in an OC, the advertiser already gets at least 90 percent of that, the casino also wants to earn, etc. So if you can withdraw 10 to 20 percent of your deposits online with luck, that's a lot. The probability of winning 40k is much lower than hitting the Jackpot in the lottery, .... and even people who are lucky once and have won a few hundred euros in the OC, often have problems with the payout, because online gambling is illegal in Germany (except Schleswig-Holstein), so no casino is obliged to pay out at all. The 40k win, if it is true, you would NEVER have received in life and also can not sue.
With luck, smaller wins up to 100 or 200 euros are paid out by most OC's but without any problems. You can't win much more on the slots anyway.

I just can't imagine that someone can gamble away thousands of euros just like that online, even a win of 10 or 20 euros is rare, and should be paid out immediately if you are lucky. I always calculate it in working hours, if you earn 2 euros / hour, 20 euros are already 10 hours of hard work, and you can buy a lot of food for it and live well 1 week.

Many people do not even have 100 euros a month available, and look for their food from the garbage, etc..

This is really awesome, and sourl addiction is the worst addiction of all addictions. You can only stop gambling when you have already lost EVERYTHING, are homeless, and don't have a single cent left.

It already makes me afraid, and bad conscience etc. that I have gambled away this WE again times 20 euros and think all the time about what I could have bought everything from it.

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