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Gambling addiction in general: Does the Oasis lockdown also apply in Austria and the Netherlands?

Topic created on 02nd Feb. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 19 | Views: 6,486
Quebi
Hello

Quick question.
If you are banned in Germany due to an entry in Oasis and have also been entered on the state banned list in the Czech Republic, can you play in the casino in Austria or Holland?

I only have 15 minutes to a Bavarian casino and only 15 minutes to several Czech casinos.
As my girlfriend has problems with me gambling, I have had myself blocked for her in Germany and the Czech Republic so that I don't always have the option of being in the casino within a few minutes. The fact that it is even faster online and really always possible is another problem...

But these blocks in Germany and the Czech Republic are not transnational, are they? If I go on vacation in Austria, Holland or somewhere else, can I also go to the casino there?

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Cheeseburger
Experienced
Your girlfriend seems to be wearing the pants in your relationship...Poor guy

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Bluff
Expert

Cheeseburger wrote on 02.02.2024 at 13:02: In your relationship, your girlfriend seems to be wearing the pants...poor guy

Such a comment is mega tasteless, they will have their reasons why that is so. You are probably someone who has been single since his youth and can't find a lady because of his disgusting character.

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Falke
Expert
Normally not.

In Austria, for example, Casinos Austria has a monopoly and its own blacklist. However, as far as I know, they also operate casinos on cruise ships and it is possible that they are also active in some other countries. But I don't know for sure. In any case, the Oasis ban has nothing to do with Casino Austria and therefore only applies in Germany.

You would therefore have to have yourself blocked again for Casinos Austria.

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Falko
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Falke wrote on 02.02.2024 at 14:47: Normally not.

In Austria, for example, Casinos Austria has a monopoly and its own blacklist. As far as I know, however, they also operate casinos on cruise ships and it is possible that they are also active in some other countries. But I don't know for sure. In any case, the Oasis ban has nothing to do with Casino Austria and therefore only applies in Germany.

You would therefore have to have yourself blocked again for Casinos Austria.

Approximately how many Online Casinos are there in your country where only Austrians are allowed to play? In Germany, we have a lot of them where only Germans are allowed to play. And it would also be interesting to know how high the RTP is in the online casinos where only Austrians are allowed to play.

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Falke
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Falko wrote on 02.02.2024 at 15:12:

How many Online Casinos are there in your country where only Austrians are allowed to play? In Germany we have a lot of them where only Germans are allowed to play. And it would also be interesting to know how high the RTP is in the online casinos where only Austrians are allowed to play.

There is only one legal online casino in Austria and that is win2day, which is operated directly by Casino Austria.


I can't tell you the RTP because it doesn't appear, but it is very low, believe me.

The TE was referring to brick-and-mortar casinos and I think there are 11 or so of them in Austria.

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Cheeseburger
Experienced

Bluff wrote on 02.02.2024 at 14:42:

Such a comment is mega tasteless, they will have their reasons why that is so. You are probably someone who has been single since his youth and can't find a lady because of his disgusting character.

I don't like women either.

Are you homophobic? Something should be done about such intolerance

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Quebi


Falke wrote on 02.02.2024 at 14:47: Normally not.

In Austria, for example, Casinos Austria has a monopoly and its own blacklist. As far as I know, however, they also operate casinos on cruise ships and it is possible that they are also active in some other countries. But I don't know for sure. In any case, the Oasis ban has nothing to do with Casino Austria and therefore only applies in Germany.

You would therefore have to have yourself blocked again for Casinos Austria.

Ok. If the Oasis is not taken into account in Austria and the various national blocks in Europe are not compared and synchronized with each other, then I will simply test it when there is hopefully time soon.

If necessary, I'll have to do other vacation things during my short vacation.

And yes, I'm really only interested in brick-and-mortar casinos.
I'm registered with a lot of Online Casinos and play more than is good.

However, I have more confidence in local casinos, regardless of the country, that if I actually have a decent hit, the win will be paid out.
Netbet, from whom I know that even high payouts are no problem, unfortunately adhere to the new German regulations where you can no longer play sensibly.


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gamble1
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Cheeseburger wrote on 02.02.2024 at 13:02: Your girlfriend seems to be wearing the pants in your relationship...poor guy

Wow to enjoy cheeseburger answers again haha nobody would have expected that


@TE But if I were you, I would really question why your girlfriend reacts the way she does - no offense meant, but as a rule (of course there are exceptions) the partner does not cause unfounded stress in relation to such a topic

I'm bringing it up because I suspect she's scared about your future if the gambling gets too extreme and even if it's ultimately your decision, you should be able to discuss your fears openly in a relationship

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Cheeseburger
Experienced

gamble1 wrote on 03.02.2024 at 14:54

Wow to get to enjoy cheeseburger answers again haha no one would have expected

well it's true. How effeminate has this society become that you let your girlfriend tell you where and how to gamble.

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Bluff
Expert

Cheeseburger wrote on 03.02.2024 at 16:06:

well, it's true. How effeminate has this society become that you let your girlfriend tell you where and how to gamble.

I would like to answer correctly but Andre or Matthias would edit or delete this post so I'll leave it 😋. On that note, have a nice weekend 🫶

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Touchy123
Rookie
Oasis only applies in the BRD trust administration (trade and maritime law)

It will be interesting to see if I am automatically released after 1 year of suspension.
Nobody will expect me to write to the Darmstadt government and ask for the green light.
I was never informed how long a ban applies. The whole thing is highly suspicious.

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gamble1
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Touchy123 wrote on 03.02.2024 at 19:44: Oasis is only valid in the BRD trust administration (trade and maritime law)

I wonder if I will be automatically released after 1 year of suspension.
Nobody will expect me to write to the Darmstadt government and ask for the green light.
I was never informed how long a ban applies. The whole thing is highly suspicious.

You are not automatically released, you always have to submit an application, you can only submit this application after 1 year at the earliest




Cheeseburger wrote on 03.02.2024 at 16:06:

well, it's true. How effeminate has this society become that you let your girlfriend tell you where and how to gamble.

Yes, but we don't know the reasons at all, it could well be that the TE is bursting with masculinity and has allowed himself to be locked so that she feels better, but even if he lets his partner forbid him to do things as long as this happens without physical or psychological violence, he can live as he likes


I wouldn't describe this in general terms as effeminate

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Quebi

gamble1 wrote on 03.02.2024 at 14:54

Wow to get to enjoy cheeseburger answers again haha no one would have expected


@TE But if I were you, I would really question why your girlfriend reacts the way she reacts is not meant badly but as a rule (of course there are exceptions) the partner does not cause unfounded stress in relation to such a topic

I'm bringing it up because I suspect she's scared about your future if the gambling gets too extreme and even if it's ultimately your decision, you should be able to discuss your fears openly in a relationship

Yes, I know why she doesn't want me to play.


One of the reasons is that I've made a net loss of 2 million euros in the last 6 years with my gambling. Although in the meantime, for a week, I was well over a million in the black. And, as you rightly suspect, she is (justifiably) afraid for our future if I gamble away the rest and everything.

If there was an option to block myself online, I would do it for her.
But even if I get myself banned from all the casinos I'm already registered with, I'll just register with another one tonight when I feel the pressure to gamble again.

And if Cheeseburger has never actually had a partner (regardless of gender, as we've already discussed above), something to think about.

Everyone has certain desires, ideas, likes, dislikes, absolute no-gos and a thousand other things.
For example, some people want fidelity in a relationship and don't want to accept it if their partner is in bed with five other people every week.

People with some very significant deficits might see it as one person wanting to dictate to the other.

Strong personalities who know who they are and what they want, and are not emotionally crippled, ask themselves what needs and fears my partner has. And then decide for themselves by weighing up what they want and what is most important to them and what they do. Then you're not told what to do. Instead, you decide according to your own needs.

For example, if my girlfriend is afraid that I'll gamble away all our money until we have nothing left and our relationship is very important to me because I'm happy with her, then I'm very happy not to go to the casino at night. Where it would really make sense for me to stop completely.

A relationship means being considerate of each other and possibly having to give up something nice in order to get something even nicer.

...
Then there's the problem of a massive addiction. It doesn't care if you actually want something else. No matter how much you want to do something for someone else, for yourself, for your partner or for both of you together.
Addiction can really dictate things to you and force you to do things you don't want to do. That really makes you a poor, stupid, helpless guy

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Jenn-R
Expert
"Does Oasis lockdown also apply in Austria and the Netherlands?"

dafuq
this is a good instrument specially developed for germany & thank god finally for the years of lack of Player protection in germany, which is managed/enforced by the regierungspräsidium in darmstadt and of course only for listed bars based in this country that are also licensed accordingly

no idea what the europeans or the dutch have but we won't include them in our bureaucracy pile, they
let them think up their own thing

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