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Control with certain routines ?
14th Jan. 2019, at 01:20 pm CET#21
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Ronny1982 wrote on 01/14/2019 at 10:56 AM
My personal opinion is that it will not work .
I am an alcoholic and have been sober for many years. Eh I became that, I had tried "controlled drinking" with a psychologist. Conclusion, once you are addicted to something, you can't control anything !
The best thing you can do is to focus on not gambling at all!
I'm not so sure that an alcoholic can never drink anything in a controlled way again!
Just this "expertise" hammered in therapies or at the psychologist - that you can never drink controlled again - lets the one or other relapse also really degenerate.
I don't want to belittle the addictive potential of alcohol or gambling, but a bit of "self-fulfilling prophecy" is definitely included in your sentence "You can no longer control!
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14th Jan. 2019, at 01:24 pm CET#22
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redpikxchu wrote on 01/14/2019 at 1:16 pm: So innovative and new! Brother I never heard that joke before
Glad to hear it.
I am not your brother, colleague.
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14th Jan. 2019, at 01:27 pm CET#23
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Lul then my sister if you prefer is
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14th Jan. 2019, at 01:30 pm CET#24
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redpikxchu wrote on 01/14/2019 1:27 pm: Lul then my sister if you prefer
I'm not so sure about that if an alcoholic can never drink anything controlled again!
Just this in therapies or at the psychologist hammered "expertise" - that you can never drink controlled again - lets the one or other relapse also really degenerate.
I don't want to belittle the addictive potential of alcohol or gambling, but a bit of "self-fulfilling prophecy" is definitely included in your sentence "You can no longer control!
There we have different views and ways of thinking, which is okay
more and more doctors assume that there is a gene (which is called the alcohol gene)9. once this is "triggered", an alcohol addiction can no longer be stopped.
And I have never sat down and convinced myself that it will get out of hand again. On the contrary, I talked myself into it and was convinced that it would work. But then I could never stop myself and from once 5-6 beers and then stop...then again uncontrolled amounts until the total crash
In my opinion it is the same with gambling. This may work for a while and then it comes back to the "intoxication states" and everything runs out of the ufer again.
Not consuming at all is simply the best thing to do for an addict...
there is no addiction everything is just hobby gambling no more new hobby search boredom is the mainspring of the so-called addiction
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Control with certain routines ?
14th Jan. 2019, at 02:56 pm CET#28
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Cryptique wrote on 01/14/2019 1:20 PM
I'm not so sure about that if an alcoholic can never drink anything controlled again!
Just this in therapies or at the psychologist hammered "expertise" - that you can never drink controlled again - lets the one or other relapse also really degenerate.
I don't want to belittle the addictive potential of alcohol or gambling, but a bit of "self-fulfilling prophecy" is definitely included in your sentence "You can no longer control!
In the case of alcoholism, there is also the physical dependence, which immediately sets in again as soon as you start drinking again. A glass, even a shot of schnapps, is quite enough.
Gambling addiction is easier to control than alcoholism.
Setting goals and limits can work in exceptional cases, but most of the time people fall back into old patterns.
In the case of addiction to alcohol, it never works unless you give up alcohol completely.
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14th Jan. 2019, at 05:25 pm CET#29
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So now at home on the home pc, it can be written better
It is already so that OC is fun. just times comfortably play a little, in the hope of winning something
Only what makes it so dangerous for me, is the urge to have to win
If I win 200-300 from 20 euros, I only get greedier. I lose my connection to the money
My stakes become higher, won money worth less. according to the motto "had already won more"
I like but just this effect of the win, as probably all
But one dulls. Initially, I was at 30 euros at 10 cent bet still out of the house. meanwhile, no longer spectacular.
and I would like to make my sessions simply from me also to a ritual, like others the Saturday soccer watch. Or play the lottery
Just a little anomaly between the daily routine. You only want to force it when you put more money in than you have. when I put n 50 in,
and it's gone, but my account is still easy full, it doesn't hurt as much and doesn't trigger as much.
But if I a 2 weeks 2000 euros verzocken, it is not clear. Because the money you hardly have, so you want it again, because you have to pay if necessary still sachen
i did that once. my last 20 euros pure, and 300 Won. Has saved my ass. But can also go extremely wrong. Especially, IF it has worked ONCE.
Then you say to yourself: "IT HAS ALWAYS WORKED". You pay and pay and pay. And it just does NOT work, as expected
Exceptions confirm the rule.
i think it is possible to control it, if you are always aware, and with larger wins, (the Einzahlunsbetrag large according to itself) first of all setzt lets, and internalizes itself, what one has just won
And I can, if you want also days or weekly book lead
With me it is so that I gamble too much when it does not run times at all, which is actually funny ... if I Deposit 20€ and have after 15 minutes nen 50er, then I pay out the and am satisfied and do other things. But if it does not run times, then I often push little by little and that although you know anyway that today nothing goes and you increase the stakes so that you get the previous deposits back in but that works out just as good as never. 😅
Well, wish you anyway that it works, if you stick to it and on Saturday evening times zockst (and for under the search for example never) it is certainly not a bad thing to not gamble too much
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I'm not so sure that an alcoholic can never drink anything in a controlled way again!
Just this "expertise" hammered in therapies or at the psychologist - that you can never drink controlled again - lets the one or other relapse also really degenerate.
I don't want to belittle the addictive potential of alcohol or gambling, but a bit of "self-fulfilling prophecy" is definitely included in your sentence "You can no longer control!
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Glad to hear it.
I am not your brother, colleague.
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Please no family names. That's too extreme for me
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There we have different views and ways of thinking, which is okay
more and more doctors assume that there is a gene (which is called the alcohol gene)9. once this is "triggered", an alcohol addiction can no longer be stopped.
And I have never sat down and convinced myself that it will get out of hand again. On the contrary, I talked myself into it and was convinced that it would work. But then I could never stop myself and from once 5-6 beers and then stop...then again uncontrolled amounts until the total crash
In my opinion it is the same with gambling. This may work for a while and then it comes back to the "intoxication states" and everything runs out of the ufer again.
Not consuming at all is simply the best thing to do for an addict...
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In the case of alcoholism, there is also the physical dependence, which immediately sets in again as soon as you start drinking again. A glass, even a shot of schnapps, is quite enough.
Gambling addiction is easier to control than alcoholism.
Setting goals and limits can work in exceptional cases, but most of the time people fall back into old patterns.
In the case of addiction to alcohol, it never works unless you give up alcohol completely.
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It is already so that OC is fun. just times comfortably play a little, in the hope of winning something
Only what makes it so dangerous for me, is the urge to have to win
If I win 200-300 from 20 euros, I only get greedier. I lose my connection to the money
My stakes become higher, won money worth less. according to the motto "had already won more"
I like but just this effect of the win, as probably all
But one dulls. Initially, I was at 30 euros at 10 cent bet still out of the house. meanwhile, no longer spectacular.
and I would like to make my sessions simply from me also to a ritual, like others the Saturday soccer watch. Or play the lottery
Just a little anomaly between the daily routine. You only want to force it when you put more money in than you have. when I put n 50 in,
and it's gone, but my account is still easy full, it doesn't hurt as much and doesn't trigger as much.
But if I a 2 weeks 2000 euros verzocken, it is not clear. Because the money you hardly have, so you want it again, because you have to pay if necessary still sachen
i did that once. my last 20 euros pure, and 300 Won. Has saved my ass. But can also go extremely wrong. Especially, IF it has worked ONCE.
Then you say to yourself: "IT HAS ALWAYS WORKED". You pay and pay and pay. And it just does NOT work, as expected
Exceptions confirm the rule.
i think it is possible to control it, if you are always aware, and with larger wins, (the Einzahlunsbetrag large according to itself) first of all setzt lets, and internalizes itself, what one has just won
And I can, if you want also days or weekly book lead
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Well, wish you anyway that it works, if you stick to it and on Saturday evening times zockst (and for under the search for example never) it is certainly not a bad thing to not gamble too much
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