For a private insolvency shortened to 3 years, both the costs of the proceedings and 35 percent of the amount of the claim would have to be paid.
Just a recommendation from my side: don't get involved or commit yourself to 3 years, but go through with the insolvency as a whole.
Purely arithmetically (small explanation in addition) the shortening would cost you so around the 600€ ...700€ monthly, thus in three years approximately 23000€ ...24000€.
However, in order to become game-free you should avoid any additional burdens, even more so take out unnecessary pressure regarding Debt settlement - and thus avoid that you enter into "NEW OBLIGATIONS"!
In other words, you will have enough to do to become game-free (which is mostly a years-long process) - and as said, avoid any financial obligations, except necessary ones.
Eventually, or as experience has shown, this will make it a little easier for you to get out
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29th Nov. 2021, at 11:54 pm CET#16
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 11/29/2021 at 10:54 am: For a personal insolvency shortened to 3 years would have to pay both the costs of the proceedings and 35 percent of the claim amount.
Just a recommendation from my side, in no case get involved or commit yourself to 3 years, but go through the insolvency as a whole.
Purely arithmetically (small explanation in addition) the shortening would cost you so around the 600€ ...700€ monthly, thus in three years approximately 23000€ ...24000€.
However, in order to become game-free you should avoid any additional burdens, even more so take out unnecessary pressure regarding Debt settlement - and thus avoid that you enter into "NEW OBLIGATIONS"!
In other words, you will have enough to do to become game-free (which is mostly a years-long process) - and as said, avoid any financial obligations, except necessary ones.
Eventually, or as experience has shown, this will make it a little easier for you to get out
All the best to you.
This is no longer current. Since 01.01.21, the insolvency proceedings are limited to 3 years, without a certain amount must be repaid. Therefore, I would recommend the PI to the TE.
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30th Nov. 2021, at 08:58 am CET#17
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thospe wrote on 11/29/2021 at 23:54
This is out of date. Since 01.01.21 the insolvency proceedings are limited to 3 years without a certain amount having to be repaid. From there I would very well recommend the PI to the TE.
Amendment of the Insolvency Code The Insolvency Code of October 5, 1994 (Federal Law Gazette I p. 2866), as last amended by Article 24(3) of the Act of June 23, 2017 (Federal Law Gazette I p. 1693), is amended as follows: 1. In Section 286, "303" is replaced by "303a". 2. § Section 287 (2) shall be amended as follows: "(2) The application shall be accompanied by the debtor's declaration that he assigns his attachable claims to emoluments from an employment relationship or to current emoluments replacing them to a trustee to be appointed by the court for a period of three years after commencement of the insolvency proceedings (assignment period).". If the debtor has been granted residual Debt discharge on the basis of an application filed after September 30, 2020, the assignment period shall be five years
and the debtor shall attach a corresponding declaration of assignment to the application." 3. In section 287a (2) sentence 1 number 1, the words "in the last ten years" shall be deleted
Roughly - at least that's how I understood the amendment - everything remains pretty much as it was - except for the Schufa entry, which will (probably) be deleted a little earlier.
"Old" residual debt discharge after 3 years if 35% and procedural costs, negative Schufa entry deleted, average duration 8 years.
"New" "residual debt discharge" after 5 years (assignment period 5 years!) - and until the negative Schufa entry is deleted also go at least 3 years in the country (max. 4 years) - and also takes 8...9 years until you are clean again
In my eyes, eyewash, but now beautifully EU compliant.
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 30.11.2021 at 08:58
Amendment of the Insolvency Code The Insolvency Code of 5 October 1994 (Federal Law Gazette I p. 2866), as last amended by Article 24(3) of the Act of 23 June 2017 (Federal Law Gazette I p. 1693), is amended as follows: 1. In section 286, "303" is replaced by "303a". 2. § Section 287 (2) shall be amended as follows: "(2) The application shall be accompanied by the debtor's declaration that he assigns his attachable claims to emoluments from an employment relationship or to current emoluments replacing them to a trustee to be appointed by the court for a period of three years after commencement of the insolvency proceedings (assignment period).". If the debtor has been granted residual Debt discharge on the basis of an application filed after September 30, 2020, the assignment period shall be five years
and the debtor shall attach a corresponding declaration of assignment to the application." 3. In section 287a (2) sentence 1 number 1, the words "in the last ten years" shall be deleted
Roughly - at least that's how I understood the amendment - everything remains pretty much as it was - except for the Schufa entry, which will (probably) be deleted a little earlier.
"Old" residual debt discharge after 3 years if 35% and procedural costs, negative Schufa entry deleted, average duration 8 years.
"New" "residual debt discharge" after 5 years (assignment period 5 years!) - and until the negative Schufa entry is deleted also go at least 3 years in the country (max. 4 years) - and also takes 8...9 years until you are clean again
In my eyes, eyewash, but now beautifully EU compliant.
So should I forget about the 3 years or what? That makes me even more depri now ☹️
Esmerim1 wrote on 28/11/2021 at 01:53: Hey guys!!!
Would love to tell you my story, sometimes you just want to get it off your chest, especially with people who understand you. Ahja to the people who come with such comments like "it's your own fault if you can't control yourself then don't play" we already know that!!! This is not about controlled gambling but about a gambling addiction. Ok then to me, I am 30 years old (female) started gambling when I was 24. Quite normal as with everyone else also, first in Spielotheken, on 10 cents maybe in a day 20 euros gambled, after a time were from the 20 euros, 200 euros. At some point the whole salary. After I was again and again in the minus, I took up each time a credit of approx. 5000 euro. At some point my debts were 17,000 euros and a lot of problems with my sister, actually she wants to help me but in the situation you just do not understand and you think you are not addicted. well after all the back and forth we have managed to lock me everywhere, which also went well for a while. Then I found out why I don't play online? Ok guys here it comes, I was so lucky, I won first 5000 euros could not believe it!!! then 2000 euros, again 5000 euros, 7000 euros and now it comes then 17,000 euros. that was exactly my Debt what I had at the bank. What have I done ? Everything gambled away. And of course still credits taken up because I must get everything out again. Then I started to be in a bad mood because my debts to the bank were already over 40,000 euros. Then I had made a therapy and was a year free of play. This year in March, as fate would have it, I suddenly got so many bills which has overwhelmed me badly, of course my first thought was I should try again to play, maybe I'm lucky again like then and can pay my bills (gambler logic). That was my biggest mistake, I was again so fast inside and had taken up again credits and where do I stand now people? I have debts over 60,000 euros, my health is in the arsch, was 5 weeks inpatient because of the psyche, could not even sit with my family at the table because of anxiety, I could not get out. People please take care of yourselves, if other people tell you something like that then take it seriously! I would never have thought that it would come so far. Ahja to my person, I have actually been a very thrifty person, which had so much fun in life, always on the road with friends, have even saved at that time my education itself (which was a lot of money) and am actually an attractive woman. I always knew that gambling is bad, my father is also addicted to gambling (my parents are separated), why I made the same mistake I don't know. You know people, money comes and goes but the health, that I can do NOTHING more because I have constant panic and fear that makes me most of all ready! I still have my job, thank God, and the most important thing is to admit to myself that I am addicted to gambling
I have already filed for bankruptcy, I hope that will be my salvation so that I can live healthy again 🙏🏻 Take care of yourself!!!!
You have my fullest respect 💪
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2nd Dec. 2021, at 06:48 am CET#21
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Esmerim1 wrote on 01/12/2021 at 19:01
So should I forget about the 3 years or what? That makes me even more depri now ☹️
No do not forget, but as soon as possible everything in the ways so that the / a court grants the residual Debt discharge or the Wohlverhaltensphase runs
And as I said, it is and remains a years-long process - opening of insolvency proceedings, good conduct phase and last but not least, your Schufa entry
As far as your Schufa entry is concerned... The end of the conduct of business phase would be June 2021 as an example - then your conduct of business phase is finished...then plus 3 years, that would be June 2024 and on January 1, 2025 you would be completely clean and creditworthy again or your Schufa entry will be deleted.
i was also addicted to gambling for a long time and gambled away a lot of money. I am now trying to get the money back. After deducting commission, 61 percent remains
Have you ever thought about that?
One puts a data protection information to the casinos. I am in contact with two providers. Have not yet decided. Wait first for the information. They are in process. Have already promises that they send it
Why did you get such high credits?
Was it at the bank?
The most important thing is that you are off gambling. I've been clean since the beginning of the year. And it's a different life. But the danger will probably stay forever.
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That was only as another example should not be related to you only to clarify what could count everything to it
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Just a recommendation from my side: don't get involved or commit yourself to 3 years, but go through with the insolvency as a whole.
Purely arithmetically (small explanation in addition) the shortening would cost you so around the 600€ ...700€ monthly, thus in three years approximately 23000€ ...24000€.
However, in order to become game-free you should avoid any additional burdens, even more so take out unnecessary pressure regarding Debt settlement - and thus avoid that you enter into "NEW OBLIGATIONS"!
In other words, you will have enough to do to become game-free (which is mostly a years-long process) - and as said, avoid any financial obligations, except necessary ones.
Eventually, or as experience has shown, this will make it a little easier for you to get out
All the best to you.
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This is no longer current. Since 01.01.21, the insolvency proceedings are limited to 3 years, without a certain amount must be repaid. Therefore, I would recommend the PI to the TE.
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Amendment of the Insolvency Code The Insolvency Code of October 5, 1994 (Federal Law Gazette I p. 2866), as last amended by Article 24(3) of the Act of June 23, 2017 (Federal Law Gazette I p. 1693), is amended as follows: 1. In Section 286, "303" is replaced by "303a". 2. § Section 287 (2) shall be amended as follows: "(2) The application shall be accompanied by the debtor's declaration that he assigns his attachable claims to emoluments from an employment relationship or to current emoluments replacing them to a trustee to be appointed by the court for a period of three years after commencement of the insolvency proceedings (assignment period).".
If the debtor has been granted residual Debt discharge on the basis of an application filed after September 30, 2020, the assignment period shall be five years
and the debtor shall attach a corresponding declaration of assignment to the application." 3. In section 287a (2) sentence 1 number 1, the words "in the last ten years" shall be deleted
Roughly - at least that's how I understood the amendment - everything remains pretty much as it was - except for the Schufa entry, which will (probably) be deleted a little earlier.
"Old" residual debt discharge after 3 years if 35% and procedural costs, negative Schufa entry deleted, average duration 8 years.
"New" "residual debt discharge" after 5 years (assignment period 5 years!) - and until the negative Schufa entry is deleted also go at least 3 years in the country (max. 4 years) - and also takes 8...9 years until you are clean again
In my eyes, eyewash, but now beautifully EU compliant.
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So should I forget about the 3 years or what? That makes me even more depri now ☹️
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You have my fullest respect 💪
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Kudos and you can do it if you want to!
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No do not forget, but as soon as possible everything in the ways so that the / a court grants the residual Debt discharge or the Wohlverhaltensphase runs
And as I said, it is and remains a years-long process - opening of insolvency proceedings, good conduct phase and last but not least, your Schufa entry
As far as your Schufa entry is concerned... The end of the conduct of business phase would be June 2021 as an example - then your conduct of business phase is finished...then plus 3 years, that would be June 2024 and on January 1, 2025 you would be completely clean and creditworthy again or your Schufa entry will be deleted.
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i was also addicted to gambling for a long time and gambled away a lot of money. I am now trying to get the money back. After deducting commission, 61 percent remains
Have you ever thought about that?
One puts a data protection information to the casinos. I am in contact with two providers. Have not yet decided. Wait first for the information. They are in process. Have already promises that they send it
Why did you get such high credits?
Was it at the bank?
The most important thing is that you are off gambling. I've been clean since the beginning of the year. And it's a different life. But the danger will probably stay forever.
All the best
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