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Gambling addiction in general: Alcohol and gambling - not a good idea! Absolute loss of control ... (Page 2)

Topic created on 16th Jun. 2017 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 22 | Views: 6,531
M****3
Begbie wrote on 07/11/2018 at 12:01 pm: meanwhile I personally see the connection as significant.

no drugs* = no desire to gamble

so the solution to the gambling problem would be more than obvious by banning all drugs!

it can be that simple



*insert random drug

What is random drug? U mean by no drugs also alcohol?

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Dutch78
Expert
Metz1013 wrote on 07/11/2018 at 12:17 PM
What is random drug? U mean by no drugs also alcohol?

Of course alcohol is a drug, do you disagree?

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M****3
Dutch78 wrote on 07/11/2018 at 9:08 pm
Of course alcohol is a drug, do you disagree?

Sorry I misspoke and actually meant to say if alcohol was also to blame or something else

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Anonym
Dutch78 wrote on 07/11/2018 at 9:08 pm
Of course alcohol is a drug, do you disagree?

By "insert random drug" I think he means you can pick any drug you want.

If you gamble stoned, on coke or speed, you will have higher wins in general.

The area for reason in the brain is then virtually deactivated!

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M****3
Starwalker wrote on 07/11/2018 at 10:27 PM
By "insert random drug" I think he means you can pick any drug you want.

If you gamble stoned, on coke or speed, you will have higher wins in general.

The area for reason in the brain is then virtually deactivated!


Thanks for the clarification what insert random drug may mean because I had no idea at all what is meant by this

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Begbie
Elite
Starwalker wrote on 07/11/2018 at 10:27 PM
By "insert random drug" I think he means you can pick any drug you want.

If you gamble stoned, on coke or speed, you will have higher wins in general.

The area for reason in the brain is then virtually deactivated!


so it looks like

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tby333 wrote on 08/07/2017 at 23:34
In the end it had been almost 5,000 euros bank debit with 0 euros payout (had maybe 200-300 euros in the account).
My parents transferred me the money after I talked to you and they don't have much money themselves, I just hate myself for it,
still. PayPal I have blocked

Too bad it's been so long, because otherwise you would have been able to get the money back within 8 weeks, assuming you haven't played in any German licensed casino, because yes all other licensed casinos are not so really legal and thus the deposits would not have been allowed.

Or had you not deposited the money into your account, then Paypal could not have debited anyway and since you wanted to close your Paypal account anyway, that would have been optimal.

They would have tried a total of 3 times to debit again, which would have cost you at least only the chargeback fee of your bank, which would still have been much less than the €5.000.-

But unfortunately this is now already two years too late

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mike1975 wrote on 07/12/2018 at 09:48
Too bad it's been so long, because otherwise you could have had the money reversed within 8 weeks, assuming you didn't play in any German licensed casino, since all other licensed casinos are not so really legal and thus the deposits would not have been allowed either.

Or had you not deposited the money into your account, then PayPal could not have debited anyway and since you wanted to close your Paypal account anyway, that would have been optimal.

They would have tried a total of 3 times to debit again, which would have cost you but at least only the chargeback fee of your bank, which would still have been much less than the €5,000

But unfortunately this is now already two years too late

Hi Mike you never have a chance to book your money back just because it is not a German licensed casino or??? Can you please explain this to me because it affects me so similar.

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Player89 wrote on 12/07/2018 at 17:35
Hi Mike you never have a chance to book your money back just because it's not a German licensed casino right??? Can you please explain this to me because it affects me so similar right now.

Well, if you pay with PayPal via direct debit, you still have 8 weeks time for it and since illegal casino debts are of course not actionable, Paypal also does nothing against it if you have the money booked back from your bank.

You will just be blocked the account and you can never open a new one.

If you have no problem with it, I would do it, provided of course that these 8 weeks are not yet over.

This is not exactly the fine English way, but casinos have no inhibitions to accept not quite so legal deposits.

What can still happen, or will happen, is that the KSP lawyers will write you about 1.2 years and threaten you, but you can safely ignore / throw away

They know exactly that they are in the wrong, which is why it is initially more that you should pay, but at some point they will write to you that they will waive all reminder fees and you only have to pay the actual outstanding amount and if you wait even longer, they will even make you an offer that you only transfer half of the outstanding Debt and then the matter would be settled

Which debt collection agency or which reputable lawyers do that if they are 100% sure that they are in the right anyway?

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mike1975 wrote on 07/12/2018 at 18:12
Well, if you pay with PayPal via direct debit, you still have 8 weeks to do so and since illegal casino debts are of course not actionable, Paypal doesn't do anything about it if you get the money charged back from your bank.

You will just block the account and you can never open a new one.

If you have no problem with it, I would do it, provided of course that these 8 weeks are not yet over.

This is not exactly the fine English way, but casinos have no inhibitions to accept not quite so legal deposits.

What can still happen, or will happen, is that the KSP lawyers will write you about 1.2 years and threaten you, but you can safely ignore / throw away

They know exactly that they are in the wrong, which is why it is initially more that you should pay, but at some point they will write to you that they will waive all reminder fees and you only have to pay the actual outstanding amount and if you wait even longer, they will even make you an offer that you only transfer half of the outstanding Debt and then the matter would be settled

Which debt collection agency or which reputable lawyers do that if they are 100% sure that they are in the right anyway?

I thank you first of all very much but is that 100% sure that the casinos have no chance and how do I know that it has no German license? May I write to you privately?

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