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sunmaker: [solved] Review by security department due to high payout/win (Page 3)

Topic created on 16th Jun. 2020 | Page: 3 of 4 | Answers: 32 | Views: 8,350
Doedelfee
Visitor
I am not worried about the tax office. I live in this country and against what the office fetches I can not do anything anyway. The money is however already well and sensibly further planned, so that only little over body, at which the tax office could enrich itself, and/or earns the state yes likewise at acquisitions and investments with. So it doesn't matter what I do with the money, the state takes its share in everything. Is nevertheless good, the economy is by the lockdown and Corona at the soil, thus I do nevertheless a good act, if I spend it again... And starting from July only with 16% value added tax.
In the casino I would not have the financial in the neck of course, but interest there is not...! -)

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gamble1
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pyros wrote on 06/17/2020 at 2:19 pm

Aha! I'll ask for the link to look into the casino's balance sheets. Apparently

You have them available, and know that the casino pays out in any case and without problems.

So please give the sources, how you know that.
What is claimed here in this forum as alleged knowledge,
others need weeks to look at the balance sheets
Amazing!

You also seem to know that the casino pays out without delaying tactics.
Although I have already read something to the contrary.
But as an omniscient supercomputer of course no problem!

I can assure that my 20,000 € a few years ago after one day on the account was and even if I have made at this casino times by a 200 € cash bonus 2k it was there without problems the next day

I can say the same for the casinos: Vera&John, Videoslots, Mr.green and Wildz

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Doedelfee
Visitor
A few years ago I was also paid the wins immediately (after proof of identity and account Verification of course).
5000 at stargames
Up to 2k at sunmaker several times...
Why it comes to this delay now I can not judge
But I do not believe in an incompetent management at Sunmaker, which has taken care of the matter according to the email.

So it should now be processed pretty quickly and come to payout

A mistake by me or my account I exclude in the meantime, because otherwise it would have come long ago to the payment termination or a request

Which internal reasons lead to the delay, I can not judge as said.

It is advertised 24h or 72h processing time, but the AGB's concede at any time additional checks that can be made.
according to Sunmaker, this check is not for me, it would surprise me now to be asked again to have to provide any evidence, which I can of course bring but then slowly as coercion and harassment would feel. I think also the management would make themselves thereby untrustworthy

Maybe Sunmaker has to check itself to prevent misconduct and not to come into disrepute

In how far by the game manufacturer a review must be carried out and that is coupled to licensing requirements I can not understand
I can understand that the system at Sunmaker triggers a certain automatism of verification from a certain payout amount, and this delays. I also believe that not every employee is authorized to release such high amounts
Apparently Sunmaker then also protects itself against Internet fraud, so software hacking, so I understand that now, or try to understand it...
As a customer, you then of course feel badly treated, cheated and fear a delay tactic
I would like to see more clarification by the support in the future, or more precise information in the terms and conditions what a security check can include everything. Money laundering is mentioned, I have not read anything about cybercrime. I am also of the opinion, the software should be fundamentally secure and checked, not only from a certain payout amount.
Software, licensing requirements, and checks are passed on to the customer in my opinion somewhat inaccurate and the support is also little helpful, or does not clarify enough. But perhaps it is also so intentional, or the customer is not concerned with certain procedures
It would have helped me to know that the software, which must be from an external company according to the regulations, is also checked by an external company. Likewise, a more precise time specification of the processing duration would be helpful. One can agree that contractually with external companies, when and how fast something is to be processed
Apparently, such win or payout amounts are rather rare, so that a check must first be commissioned and waited for
I find the topic already interesting. There are also the Highroller, but that is probably a whole other league
Do they have to undergo a more detailed check in advance?

Anyway I digress...


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gamble1
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Doedelfee wrote on 17.06.2020 at 23:44: A few years ago the wins were also paid out to me immediately (after proof of identity and account Verification of course).
5000 at stargames
Up to 2k at sunmaker several times...
Why it comes to this delay now I can not judge
But I do not believe in an incompetent management at Sunmaker, which has taken care of the matter according to the email.

So it should now be processed pretty quickly and come to payout

A mistake by me or my account I exclude in the meantime, because otherwise it would have come long ago to the payment termination or a request

Which internal reasons lead to the delay, I can not judge as said.

It is advertised 24h or 72h processing time, but the AGB's concede at any time additional checks that can be made.
according to Sunmaker statement, this verification is not me, it would surprise me now to be asked again to have to provide any evidence, which I can of course bring but then slowly as coercion and harassment would feel. I think also the management would make themselves thereby untrustworthy

Maybe Sunmaker has to check itself to prevent misconduct and not to come into disrepute

In how far by the game manufacturer a review must be carried out and that is coupled to licensing requirements I can not understand
I can understand that the system at Sunmaker triggers a certain automatism of verification from a certain payout amount, and this delays. I also believe that not every employee is authorized to release such high amounts
Apparently Sunmaker then also protects itself against Internet fraud, so software hacking, so I understand that now, or try to understand it...
As a customer, you then of course feel badly treated, cheated and fear a delay tactic
I would like to see more clarification by the support in the future, or more precise information in the terms and conditions what a security check can include everything. Money laundering is mentioned, I have not read anything about cybercrime. I am also of the opinion, the software should be fundamentally secure and checked, not only from a certain payout amount.
Software, licensing requirements, and checks are passed on to the customer in my opinion somewhat inaccurate and the support is also little helpful, or does not clarify enough. But perhaps it is also so intentional, or the customer is not concerned with certain procedures
It would have helped me to know that the software, which must be from an external company according to the regulations, is also checked by an external company. Likewise, a more precise time specification of the processing duration would be helpful. One can agree that contractually with external companies, when and how fast something is to be processed
Apparently, such win or payout amounts are rather rare, so that a check must first be commissioned and waited for
I find the topic already interesting. There are also the Highroller, but that is probably a whole other league
Do they have to undergo a more detailed check in advance?

Anyway I digress...



Regardless of the status player or VIP, there should always be checks at such sums simply to exclude a malfunction

In each slot you will also find the note that wins are invalid due to software errors and they are waiting for the ok from the manufacturer that the win was triggered correctly and also the correct booked

Quite normal processes

In the past there were already some million winners who had won offline at slot jackpots that should not have come according to the statement of the casino

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gamble1 wrote on 17.06.2020 at 19:32
I can assure that my 20.000 € was a few years ago after one day on the account and even if I have made at this casino times by a 200 € cash bonus 2k it was without problems the next day there

I can say the same for the casinos: Vera&John, Videoslots, Mr.green and Wildz

May be, but you lean far out the window, if you claim that for others, especially since

that is not recognizable in your statement before so at all. One should not speak for other companies
just because you have a product from them

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gamble1
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pyros wrote on 06/18/2020 at 04:41 PM

Maybe, but you are going out on a limb when you claim that for others, especially since

that is not recognizable in your statement before so at all. One should not speak for other companies,
just because you have a product from them.

Basically, you are absolutely right

I think but in this particular case you can very much assume that sunmaker is solvent and also has the will to pay what would you have otherwise?

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Doedelfee
Visitor
Withdrawal was canceled.
The total amount is credited to my account again. On request to the support, this happened at my request, as I would have requested a manual processing by the management by mail, the transfer would be the management but now to sign, but also have a lot to do. I am supposed to let my account rest, have a nice day.
I hope I can rely on the statement of the support staff? I still emailed again asking for the transfer to my bank account and for a confirmation
Oh man, I'm going crazy...
Would like to be able to confirm the confident comments here...

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gamble1
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Doedelfee wrote on 06/18/2020 at 20:39: Cashout was canceled.
The total amount has been credited back to my account. Upon request to support, this happened at my request, as I would have requested a manual processing by management by mail, but the transfer would now be in front of management to sign, but also have a lot to do. I am supposed to let my account rest, have a nice day.
I hope I can rely on the statement of the support staff? I still emailed again asking for the transfer to my bank account and for a confirmation
Oh man, I'm going crazy...
Would like to be able to confirm the confident comments here...

I have also had times when the withdrawal was automatically not possible at a casino it was canceled and then just trundled in sometime so do not panic

Casinos that do not want to pay assure you no payment and if it is already ready for release it means the feedback from the manufacturer was most likely in your favor

Soon you got through it

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Doedelfee
Visitor
I would like to believe that
But the statement of the support is not true. I was asked again by mail for my account details, which I immediately sent...
About the amount of the transfer request I have reassured myself with the support that would go via trustly. So why cancel?
Bzw. claim that would have been my wish, why not the answer for technical reasons not possible...?
Ultimately, I do not care how the money comes to my account,
The main thing is that it comes!

I do not want to have to have more friendly conversations with the supporters...

I want to be able to say awesome casino! made boom, paid out, done!

All very nerve racking...

So: Amount is still pending for payment, no processing status apparent, it remains to hope and trust...

Until further notice...
Have a nice evening all...

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Doedelfee
Visitor
New status after request to support:

Amount should be transferred tomorrow
5-10 days it will probably take this way...

Account balance in the player account was set to 0,00€

The payout can be found in the account statements under adjustment with the status not available, or green dot and the comment completed again.

Hui, I am happy...
Not available... OK, but completed sounds good to me...

Has been able to give binding commitments and haz directly responded the support,
today times a praise...!

The actions and responses before were not so nice...
In addition, there are also some Threats here, where negative comments are made, or also defended...

The final confirmation then in 5-10 days, then will be evaluated

Thank you for the reassuring comments about Sunmaker...
(subject to reservation, will also only be confirmed in 5-10days😉).

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