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upola

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15th Jul. 2020, at 09:53 am CEST#11

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Mahjo89 wrote on 15.07.2020 at 09:24
From your example I just read out that you are a harbor singer 😊

But thanks for your helpful feedback

Well, if you are too stupid to read the terms and conditions, you do not have to turn on other users here.
You write fraud, babble something about class action, that actually already shows your level.

And do not forget, always read the terms and conditions.

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Dutch78

Forum posts: 1.057 Member since: 27.01.2018

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15th Jul. 2020, at 10:11 am CEST#12

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What kind of troll are you?
Make a mistake, look for the blame in others and ask for help.
You are given help that is completely correct and justified based on your constellation and they come up with nothing better than to insult these users.
You need help but can't handle the right answers, very adult behavior.
Class action lawsuits are a myth in Germany by the way, they don't exist, so you have to pull this off like Don Quixote, alternatively go to Malta with a big wooden horse and wait until they are all asleep, then you can take the island.

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Mahjo89

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15th Jul. 2020, at 11:56 am CEST#13

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Dutch78 wrote on 07/15/2020 at 10:11 am: What kind of troll are you?
Make a mistake, blame others and ask for help.
You are given help that is completely correct and justified based on your constellation and they can't think of anything better to do than insult these users.
You need help but can't handle the right answers, very adult behavior.
Class action lawsuits are a myth in Germany by the way, they don't exist, so you have to pull this off like Don Quixote, alternatively go to Malta with a big wooden horse and wait until they are all asleep, then you can take the island.

Thanks I'll try it 😊

as you can read several times I admit to not having read the terms and conditions . For me, however, it is cheating / fraud call it what you will that my money is handled differently as eg ne Deposit with credit card. Then give me but this times ne smart answer. Why is there a difference made? I have never experienced on any other site 😊

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upola

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15th Jul. 2020, at 12:06 pm CEST#14

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What kind of smart answer do you want, there is none.
The only answer that can be given to you is in the terms and conditions.
You don't have to think that's great, but it's a fact.

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Mahjo89

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15th Jul. 2020, at 12:26 pm CEST#15

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upola wrote on 15.07.2020 at 12:06 pm: What kind of smart answer do you want,there is none.
The only answer they can give you, it's in the T&C.
You don't have to think that's great,but it's a fact.

And that's exactly what I think is a scam, but it doesn't matter
Money is gone I annoy me already no more
Can only tell everyone from now on slotty is dirt 😊dies is at least my opinion

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15th Jul. 2020, at 12:50 pm CEST#16

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Hello,

by no means everything that is written in the GTCs is also legally valid. German law has its own paragraphs for this purpose, which specify exactly when a GTC is effectively included and when it is invalid.

For example, a GTC clause is invalid if it unreasonably disadvantages the contractual partner contrary to the principle of good faith. To put it simply: the clause must not come as a surprise to the player, who could or should have expected the content of the clause.

In this case, the TE certainly did not assume that the Maxbet would differ in the different Deposit methods and was thus unreasonably disadvantaged contrary to the requirement of good faith.

However, this is only the case under German BGB law, since Maltese law probably applies here, I am not sure about the TE's rights.

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15th Jul. 2020, at 12:53 pm CEST#17

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Vittell wrote on 07/15/2020 at 12:50 pm: Hello,

by far not everything that is written in the AGBs is also legally valid. The German law has its own paragraphs for this, which specify exactly when a GTC is effectively included and when it is invalid.

For example, a GTC clause is invalid if it unreasonably disadvantages the contractual partner contrary to the principle of good faith. To put it simply: the clause must not come as a surprise to the player, who could or should have expected the content of the clause.

In this case, the TE certainly did not assume that Maxbet would differ in the different Deposit methods and was thus unreasonably disadvantaged contrary to the requirement of good faith.

However, this is only the case under German BGB law, since Maltese law probably applies here, I am not sure about the TE's rights.

Thank you very much !
Finally a helpful answer . Will not bring much in doubt but it shows that it is not really legal what you do there . And to show that is almost enough for me 😊

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upola

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15th Jul. 2020, at 12:57 pm CEST#18

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Mahjo89 wrote on 15.07.2020 at 12:26 pm
And that's exactly what I think is cheating but well Eig totally does not matter
Money is gone I'm not even annoyed anymore
Can only tell everyone from now on slotty is dirt 😊dies is at least my opinion

I can understand your frustration, but what is it cheating if that is in the conditions.
Bonuses resulting from deposits made with Skrill, Neteller, ecoPayz, Webmoney, Qiwi, ePay.bg, ToditoCash, Paysafecard, Neosurf, Boleto, Mistercash, Astropay, Zimpler, Boku, Much Better - Maximum bet is £/$/€2.00/NOK20/SEK20/150руб/230円/8zł per stake.

Whether it makes sense or not,be left to one side.
But it stands now times there.

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Kleinkariert

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15th Jul. 2020, at 01:05 pm CEST#19

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Mahjo89 wrote on 15.07.2020 at 12:26 pm
And that's exactly what I think is cheating but well Eig totally does not matter
Money is gone I'm not even annoyed anymore
Can only tell everyone from now on slotty is dirt 😊dies is at least my opinion

You can say that with pleasure and for the reason I renounce in most cases on Bonuses, because in my eyes the conditions are unfair. The cynical choice of words in the newsletters Super Bonus, etc. I find but always funny. Meaning now quickly lose 100 € and cash out a whole 10 spins on incredible 0.10 € in the hottest slot of the year Starburst! But when it comes to making such rules clear, for example, already on the Deposit page to point out the <Mit dieser Methode dürfen Sie mit Bonus nur 2,00 € pro Runde einsetzen>casinos are gone right away.

You would have to get in your case but at least the deposit amount out, how far you get with the lawyer there I do not know. There are no cases where I know that a lawyer could negotiate what out, especially you need one that sits in Malta. Whether it is worth the effort and if it does not work out how much more it costs... but thanks to you Slotty has at least one person less who plays there.</Mit>

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Mahjo89

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15th Jul. 2020, at 01:32 pm CEST#20

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upola wrote on 15.07.2020 at 12:57 pm
I can understand your frustration,but what's cheating about it if it's in the terms and conditions.
Bonuses originating from deposits made with Skrill, Neteller, ecoPayz, Webmoney, Qiwi, ePay.bg, ToditoCash, Paysafecard, Neosurf, Boleto, Mistercash, Astropay, Zimpler, Boku, Much Better - Maximum bet is £/$/€2.00/NOK20/SEK20/150руб/230円/8zł per stake.

Whether it makes sense or not,be left to one side.
But it stands now times there.

Ok hand on heart ... I do not read everywhere the conditions if they were so far always the same ... Max bet in the bonus 5 €
I have kept to it. That I am disadvantaged due to a Deposit by paYsafe and have a maximum of 2 € max bet on it should or would have to at least point out
Of course, I am aware that the casinos may even aim to make it extra because you then in the best case hundreds to thousands of euros do not have to pay out. I find it, however, simply above huge scam even if I give 95% of your comments right

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