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Scatters: [solved] Scatters: Fooling as well as rip-off??? (Page 2)

Topic created on 11th Mar. 2022 | Page: 2 of 4 | Answers: 38 | Views: 7,726
gamble1
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Falke wrote on 16.03.2022 at 14:49: I can understand you completely. Unfortunately, such an approach is not uncommon.

Especially the completely inhuman acting chat brings one to despair. And that is the case with almost all casinos. You are not taken seriously, get completely different answers that do not fit the actual question and you have the feeling as if you were writing with a robot.

Had once a similar discussion, where it was about a completely incomprehensible issue that would have been logically solvable only with a little common sense. Went on for almost a week, even wrote with '' managers'', which is the next spoof. These are even only chatmotarbeiter who then pretend to be managers

I explained the same thing over and over again and asked NOT to get the same answer. Thereupon I was written at least 10 times that they have now understood the problem, only to give me the exact same answer again

Such a subterranean support exists only in online casinos. And I've been asking myself for a long time why they put up with it and why nothing is done about it

Think it's less about the understanding but more about the powers of the chat employees of external call center companies that take over the support to say nothing

Funnily enough, the "casino managers" who also help with problems are not always actually the managers I once told a VIP attendant that some normal supporters with a little more room for maneuver are the contact persons

But this is certainly also dependent on the company think it will also actually managers who take on the matter personally and as long as you then come to a result it is relatively No matter who the person was on the side of the casino

Only this is not understood and 0815 answers to get what every bot can do better is very frustrating because I give you fully right but have experienced it myself fortunately only very rarely

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expresident
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gamble1 wrote on 16.03.2022 at 14:47
What makes you think that your withdrawal has been deleted ? I think everyone will just wait until your account is active again Caro is on the actual problem so it will be determined


Well, according to my knowledge (which means nothing, because I do not know much ) and partly painful own experience can / may not be closed an account with open payout request or positive balance
For this reason, I was at least denied by various casino operators the closure of several accounts. I had to bring the accounts first to 0 or pay out so that could be closed
And that the now first wait until the account is free again I have written quasi, because is yes again everything fine and good
And that Caro is on it and but apparently the responsible "manager" even after more than 48 hours it is not necessary in any way to report to stir or even necessary steps to initiate is very significant

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Falke
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expresident wrote on 16.03.2022 at 18:09
Well to my knowledge (which means nothing, because I do not know much ) and partly painful own experience can / may not be closed an account with open payout request or positive balance
For this reason, I was at least denied by various casino operators the closure of several accounts. I had to bring the accounts first to 0 or pay out so that could be closed
And that the now first wait until the account is free again I have written quasi, because is yes again everything fine and good
And that Caro is on it and but apparently the responsible "manager" even after more than 48 hours it is not necessary in any way to report to stir or even necessary steps to initiate is very significant

If they do not even report when Gamblejoe writes to them, then they are really to be forgotten.
The float then already on such a high horse and arrange their Geschäfstpolitik so arbitrarily that one should take from this casino far distance.

Cans not understand, because they lose so much more money in the end, but I think there are many casinos that open only to cheat as many people as possible, short a lot of money and then the owners settle with the money somewhere.
But I assume that such casinos from the beginning the plan is not to operate the casino seriously, but to use it only to collect money, without seriously wanting to make payouts

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gamble1
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Falke wrote on 16.03.2022 at 20:07
If they don't even get in touch when Gamblejoe writes to them then they are really to be forgotten.
The float then already on such a high horse and arrange their Geschäfstpolitik so arbitrarily that one should take from this casino far distance.

Cans not understand, because they lose so much more money in the end, but I think there are many casinos that open only to cheat as many people as possible, short a lot of money and then the owners settle with the money somewhere.
But I assume such casinos times that it is from the beginning of the plan the casino not seriously want to operate, but to use it only to collect money, without seriously want to carry out payouts

Well would first wait and see what comes out of it then you can still get the fraud stamp out while I can understand your basic thought process very well

The point with the short rip off and then Ciao is I think not so easy when you have felt 20 providers and everything in the boat and in addition a license they all want to be paid finally

@expresident

The money does not simply disappear and usually money after the closure in the account is paid out there have most casinos even a point in the AGB's which regulates this

That the manager of course Caro also does not answer can have various reasons possibly there is still nothing new there but I think you can say more because you are in this regard with Caro in connection

But one thing is for sure Caro will not let you down she has helped me once in a case where she has really put all means in motion that has dragged on for weeks and should she also sometimes come to your limits of what is feasible (which in normal cases has almost never happened) she still stays on it and is looking for a solution for all of us here

I know the feeling well when felt nothing happens and can therefore understand you because it is finally about your money which you are virtually withheld according to your statement (do not misunderstand believe you of course what you write but just want to emphasize the situation only you know with 100% certainty)

So make you really no head and report how it continues

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expresident
Rookie
@gamble1

The last status is that Caro has written to the manager and he has obviously not yet reported back (otherwise Caro would have reported to me). That Caro does not let me hang and tries everything I see also so. But unfortunately she can't do anything if the persons concerned don't move. Unfortunately, I already had a case in which she could not help me because the operator has turned stubborn.
I let that rest at the time (was only about 100 €) and since then avoid this group like the devil the holy water

To the point with the terms and conditions I can only say yes clearly. Unfortunately, some do not adhere to their own terms and conditions or only if it is to their advantage

I can assure you that everything I give here from me corresponds to what I "experience" or receive. Neither do I add something or leave something out. Also not if it could be to my disadvantage.

Well, let's see, then we see what and we see nothing we just keep on looking
I will report what and how it continues.

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Falke
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gamble1 wrote on 16.03.2022 at 23:08
Well would first wait and see what comes out of it then you can always get the fraud stamp out while I can understand your basic thought process very well

The point with the short rip off and then Ciao is I think not so easy if you have felt 20 providers and everything in the boat and in addition a license that want to be paid all finally

@expresident

The money does not simply disappear and usually money after the closure in the account is paid out there have most casinos even a point in the AGB's which regulates this

That the manager of course Caro also does not answer can have various reasons possibly there is still nothing new there but I think you can say more because you are in this regard with Caro in connection

But one thing is for sure Caro will not let you down she has helped me once in a case where she has really put all means in motion that has dragged on for weeks and should she also sometimes come to your limits of what is feasible (which in normal cases has almost never happened) she still stays on it and is looking for a solution for all of us here

I know the feeling well when felt nothing happens and can therefore understand you because it is finally about your money which you are virtually withheld according to your statement (do not misunderstand believe you of course what you write but just want to emphasize the situation only you know with 100% certainty)

So really do not worry and report how it goes

Yes of course. Fraud is a very hard word and have that times only so in the room as a worst case suspicion.

Nevertheless, the whole procedure of the casino is already more than just unserious. And if you want to prevent a payout with all means, then that already borders on fraud.
Only with Online Casinos, one has already become so accustomed to such procedures that it is almost considered normal.
Let's be honest, other companies would have been sued for the actions of some casinos in the ground and the prosecutor's office would also have a lot to do

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gamble1
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Falcon wrote on 03/17/2022 at 01:14 AM
Right. Fraud is a very hard word and just put that in there as a worst case suspicion.

Nevertheless, the whole procedure of the casino is also up to here already more than just unseriös. And if you want to prevent a payout with all means, then that already borders on fraud.
Only with Online Casinos, one has already become so accustomed to such procedures that it is almost considered normal.
Let's be honest, other companies would have been sued for the actions of some casinos in the ground and the prosecutor's office would also have quite a lot to do

Sure I also do not dispute and customer friendly is also something else in my eyes, however, just wanted to note that the current facts so far can still be stamped as a mistake by employees

How the whole thing looks in a few days we see then and I hope for the TE everything works out so because already alone the chat he has posted is special

If it can not be solved and be due to clear fault of the casino I think GJ will draw consequences so or so but so far we are not yet

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expresident
Rookie
Let's have a little summary:

02.03. ca 04:15 New registration in this casino
02.03. ca 04:18 Deposit 25 € (played nice in the end but all gone)
02.03. about 06:40 deposit 50 € so that came to 200 €
02.03. ca 21:19 submitted ID Verification documents successfully uploaded
02.03. ca 21:24 address proof verification document successfully uploaded

No reaction until I asked on 11.03 at 15:08 impudently why a simple verification takes so long.
Reaction from the casino, account is blocked due to my alleged request. Which I definitely did not.
Casino opens account after full 9 (so on 20.03. about 20:30 clock) days again. The withdrawal request is still in progress and the KYC is still unprocessed.

Today on 22.03. is at least the ID verification through (there have se probably nothing found what they could so easily criticize), but the in all other (at least very many) problem-free address verification via HandyPDf bill is supposedly not allowed here. So landline bill PDF with blackened customer number and landline number (I'm of the opinion that this data the a moist angehen) uploaded.

And now it gets funny
They want the following for the bank document verification:

◦ The bank statement should not be older than six (6) months
◦ Your name, IBAN and BIC/SWIFT must be visible
◦ Your name, address, BSB number and account number must be visible


If I understand correctly, the BSB number is the bank state branch for Australian banks (bank routing number with branch identifier)
How the heck do I get an Australian account with my German account number?

I am almost 100% sure that they will find something in the uploaded account statement that will allow them to continue to deny the payment.

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expresident
Rookie
Quite forgotten in the list above is still missing :

03.03 ca 16:30 Payout request in the amount of 225,--€

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gamble1
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expresident wrote on 03/22/2022 at 8:29 pm: Times a little summary:

02.03. ca 04:15 New registration in this casino
02.03. ca 04:18 Deposit 25 € (played nice in the end but all gone)
02.03. ca 06:40 Deposit 50 € so that came to 200 €
02.03. ca 21:19 submitted ID Verification documents successfully uploaded
02.03. ca 21:24 address proof verification document successfully uploaded

No reaction until I asked on 11.03 at 15:08 impudently why a simple verification takes so long.
Reaction from the casino, account is blocked due to my alleged request. Which I definitely did not.
Casino opens account after full 9 (so on 20.03. about 20:30 clock) days again. The withdrawal request is still in progress and the KYC is still unprocessed.

Today on 22.03. is at least the ID verification through (there have se probably nothing found what they could so easily criticize), but the in all other (at least very many) problem-free address verification via HandyPDf bill is supposedly not allowed here. So landline bill PDF with blackened customer number and landline number (I'm of the opinion that this data the a moist angehen) uploaded.

And now it gets funny
They want the following for the bank document verification:

◦ The bank statement should not be older than six (6) months
◦ Your name, IBAN and BIC/SWIFT must be visible
◦ Your name, address, BSB number and account number must be visible


If I understand correctly, the BSB number is the bank state branch for Australian banks (bank sort code with branch identifier)
How the heck do I get an Australian account with my German account number?

I am almost 100% sure that they will find something in the uploaded account statement that will allow them to continue to deny the payment.


I think we already had that with the number, you should be able to ignore it if it is not applicable to your account

Blackened documents are in some casinos a problem because there are some who want to see 100% I do it in this case always so I send a bank statement but usually the cover sheet in the print view from online banking there are then usually only the cost of the bank on it but still IBAN and name and address and that has always been accepted so far

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