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Platincasino: [solved] Platincasino does not pay 8.200 Euro !!! Fraud !!! (Page 4)

Topic created on 31st Dec. 2021 | Page: 4 of 7 | Answers: 60 | Views: 15,142
gamble1
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GamblerK795 wrote on 02.01.2022 at 01:30
Ahso, but you can Deposit quietly with fake account, that's ok or?

No of course not but that's why the deposit made from the foreign account must be refunded


And I have also written I do not understand why you want proof and then refuses it makes no sense

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I say but on page 1 the Platin is fraud Deposit see the not as a problem no matter what name but as soon as it goes into the payout it says that does not work and pulls the terms and conditions to it although the themselves do not keep to it I find it funny that not even an admin what says about it

The whole casinos are fraud otherwise would not make every week 4 new open and the operators thereby become rich The principle of casino is not coincidence otherwise would be the bankrupt thinks but times after? How else can they keep themselves so long years

I am forever out of the matter I no longer gamble, I have realized that it is fraud. The post author agonizes over his money I hope he gets his money and stops playing that should be a lesson

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gamble1
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Avatar wrote on 02.01.2022 at 13:24 clock: I say but on page 1 the Platin is fraud Deposit see the not as a problem no matter what name but as soon as it goes into the payout it says that does not work and pulls the terms and conditions although the themselves do not adhere to it I find it funny that not even an admin what says to it

The whole casinos are fraud otherwise would not make every week 4 new open and the operators thereby become rich The principle of casino is not coincidence otherwise would be the bankrupt thinks but times after? How else can they keep themselves so long years

I am forever out of the matter I no longer gamble, I have realized that it is fraud. The post author agonizes over his money I hope he gets his money and stops playing that should be a lesson.

I think from the GJ team no one says what because the case is just a violation of the terms and conditions and their hands are tied

Whether in the past Platin has let through several payouts still does not change the fact that it was not allowed

One can say it is morally reprehensible the TE several times to pay out and then with the sum of the AGB's to draw on especially since he should confirm everything but fraud it is not because the error as stupid as it is with the TE lies

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Comingsoon19
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I find it very funny that no one from Gamblejoe comments on it either. Somehow a pity. Especially since it was asked for help. Should Platin get through with it, however, one should put Platin also here on the blacklist. Without point and comma

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Falke
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Lars091985 wrote on 02.01.2022 at 15:25: I find it very funny that no one from Gamblejoe comments on it either. Somehow a pity. Especially since it was asked for help. But should Platin get away with it, they should put Platin on the Blacklist here too. Without point and comma.

Totally agree with you.

If it has happened as the TE writes. This possibility must of course also take into account that maybe the story is not quite true. But if it is really true, then the behavior of Platin Casino is very close to fraud. In any case, no more casino what you should recommend.

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frapi07
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Lars091985 wrote on 02.01.2022 at 15:25: I find it very funny that no one from Gamblejoe comments on it either. Somehow a pity. Especially since it was asked for help. But if Platin gets away with it, they should Blacklist Platin here too. Without point and comma.

Perhaps no one from GJ comments on this, because the TE has not yet contacted Caro. The TE has also not contacted me for days since I explained how to contact Caro.

I honestly don't understand the dislike towards Platin. Any casino would have given a red light on the review and acted as Platin did. That the review here was done too late is of course very unfortunate and is a mistake on Platin's part, but as I mentioned, both parties made their mistakes.

As long as you stick to the terms and conditions, you will always get your payouts accepted. Accordingly, your suggestion with the blacklist is complete nonsense. Casinos that rip off their players wantonly, i.e. with fake slots, long back and forth during Verification and/or payout, etc., belong on the blacklist. Platin is definitely not one of them.

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Falke
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frapi07 wrote on 02/01/2022 at 16:11
Maybe no one from GJ is commenting because the TE has not contacted Caro yet. The TE has also not contacted me for days since I explained how to contact Caro.

I honestly don't understand the dislike towards Platin. Any casino would have given a red light on the review and acted as Platin did. That the review here was done too late is of course very unfortunate and is a mistake on Platin's part, but as I mentioned, both parties made their mistakes.

As long as you stick to the terms and conditions, you will always get your payouts accepted. Accordingly, your suggestion with the Blacklist is complete nonsense. Casinos that rip off their players wantonly, i.e. with fake slots, long back and forth during Verification and/or payout, etc., belong on the blacklist. Platin is definitely not one of them.

Again in a nutshell.

A casino can not simply accept funds that then the player gambles and at the same time then but no wins pay out.

Either they don't allow the player to gamble from the beginning or they have to pay out later.

The casino cannot retain wins on the one hand and retain losses on the other. On what basis, please?

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frapi07
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Falcon wrote on 02.01.2022 at 16:16
Again in a nutshell.

A casino can not simply take funds that then the player gambles and at the same time then but no wins pay out.

Either they do not allow the player from the beginning or they must then also pay out later.

The casino cannot retain wins on the one hand and retain losses on the other. On what basis, please?

You're right of course, somewhere in the beginning I wrote that one would actually have to reverse all deposits and withdrawals, since the contract is void from the beginning. Only to refund deposits would be wrong, because one party would be at a disadvantage (as some have suggested here)

I also see that Platin has made a mistake here, but so has the player. Neither of them is 100% right. It's a complex issue. The question is who is sitting on the longer lever and that is usually the casino. Here is an example: Card counting is not forbidden at BJ (i.e. it is not cheating and does not violate any law), but a casino can prohibit players who use this strategy to increase their chances of winning from playing BJ in their casinos. Theoretically, a casino would not have the right to exclude you from the game because of this, but they are allowed to do it anyway. Just because it may not be noticed the 1st or 2nd time, it does not mean that the casino agrees and there are no consequences

As I said, Platin checked and confirmed the Deposit and withdrawal method (that was the error). Upon closer inspection, it was determined that there was a violation of the terms and conditions and acted. For me, the only correct solution would be to reverse all deposits and withdrawals.

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Falke
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frapi07 wrote on 02.01.2022 at 16:59
You are right of course, somewhere at the beginning I wrote that one would actually have to reverse all deposits and withdrawals, because the contract is void from the beginning. Only to refund deposits would be wrong, because one party would be at a disadvantage (as some have suggested here)

I also see that Platin has made a mistake here, but so has the player. Neither of them is 100% right. It's a complex issue. The question is who is sitting on the longer lever and that is usually the casino. Here is an example: Card counting is not forbidden at BJ (i.e. it is not cheating and does not violate any law), but a casino can prohibit players who use this strategy to increase their chances of winning from playing BJ in their casinos. Theoretically, a casino would not have the right to exclude you from the game because of this, but they are allowed to do it anyway. Just because it might not be noticed the 1st or 2nd time, it doesn't mean that the casino agrees and there are no consequences

As I said, Platin checked and confirmed the Deposit and withdrawal method (that was the error). Upon closer inspection, it was determined that there was a violation of the terms and conditions and acted. For me, the only correct solution would be to reverse all deposits and withdrawals.

The contract is valid from the moment Platin Casino takes the money and lets the player play with it.

Imagine you go to a real casino. You lose there. You go back and lose again. And you do that 10 times in a row. There have never been any problems. On the 11th visit you finally win

But the casino doesn't pay you the win because you broke the house rules on your first visit. Do you realize how absurd the whole thing is?

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frapi07 wrote on 02.01.2022 at 16:59
You are right of course, somewhere at the beginning I wrote that one would actually have to reverse all deposits and withdrawals, because the contract is void from the beginning. Only to refund deposits would be wrong, because one party would be at a disadvantage (as some have suggested here)

Here are a few relevant excerpts from their terms and conditions .

§2. player account

The players on the Red Rhino website hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions of these T&Cs at all times and further agree:


  • not to act in the interest of any third party;

  • not to use bank accounts, credit cards or other means of payment that the respective player is not authorized to use



5. In the event that a player fails to comply with the rules set forth in 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3, Red Rhino reserves the right to close the relevant account.




16. Red Rhino reserves the right to verify and confirm the identity of any player at any time. If necessary, Red Rhino will ask the player to provide appropriate documents to prove his/her identity. Examples of documents that may be used to prove identity are photo IDs, passports or other official identification documents, bank statements


§3. Payment transactions


  1. Deposits to the player account can be made using the payment methods available on the Red Rhino website. The name of the holder of the payment method (credit card, bank account or ePayment) must be the same as the name of the holder of the player account. If this is not the case, the corresponding amount will be returned to the payer and the Deposit will be denied. Any fees incurred will be charged to the paying account.



      6.A Know Your Client (KYC) procedure can be performed on all players depositing funds. All transactions are checked for possible money laundering activity. Any suspicious activity on an account may result in the player being reported to the relevant authorities and deposited funds being frozen. This may also result in the closure of the account. In addition, Red Rhino reserves the right to request further documentation regarding a player's identity, assets and wagering where necessary to prevent money laundering, terrorist financing, fraud or other criminal activity. Players who fail to comply with such a request may be sanctioned, including denial of deposits and suspension and/or blocking of the relevant account.



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