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# Other Casinos #: Real data abuse Slotilda (Page 2)

Topic created on 27th Jun. 2019 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 26 | Views: 7,257
sippi
Expert
They will all switch to at least push tan by September (?), so it should be safer than SMS.

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Begbie
Elite
the ITAN (paper TANs) will be abolished in September
the mTAN will continue to exist.


and on the subject, the cops will surely receive the delivery address of the sim card ordered from vodafone.
if the delivery address was not disguised (e.g. via a hacked Packstation account), it should be easy to find Marco.
although that would have been pretty stupid of him, if he would have given his own address as delivery address... hm...
report in any case times as this goes on.

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DiamondDonut
Top Member
wettibernd wrote on 27.06.2019 at 12:13 pm: Tough story, I've never heard such a thing before. Would this be theoretically possible for me? I have a Sparkassen Online account and use the push tan procedure, so my phone (Samsung Galaxy S8) generates possible tan numbers itself? Does anyone know about this?

Theoretically yes! Since someone could (theoretically) intercept your SMS and thus has the Tan... that's why I also make transfers only via Push-Tan with a device where I insert the card and then read the code on the screen

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DiamondDonut
Top Member
Begbie wrote on 27/06/2019 at 13:20: the ITAN (paper TANs) will be abolished in September
the mTAN will continue to exist.


and on the topic, the cops will surely receive the delivery address of the ordered sim card from vodafone.
if the delivery address was not disguised (e.g. via a hacked Packstation account), it should be easy to find Marco.
although that would have been pretty stupid of him, if he would have given his own address as delivery address... hm...
report in any case times as this goes on.

An empty house is enough, there are a lot of them in Hamburg for example
Just paste over the mailbox and done.

Btw: this is also common practice for orders on the darknet

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gamble1
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GambleGanja wrote on 27/06/2019 at 11:30 am: Tough story,but what I don't understand about this is,what's the point of him gambling with your data if he can't withdraw the money ?!!! The money would go back to your account after the withdrawal...so if then he just wanted to harm you and what would some "random" hacker get out of it ?!! Really funny...

maybe the plan was to report the loss of the account and open a new one

and pay out there

is for someone who can order a sim to another address very easy believe me that

Italy is me Personally New otherwise Pingen the always from Russia etc. to

recently I had a small gap on my servers and a few from Russia were able to sit for 12 hours until I had solved the problem they are always trying where it works

@TE

have you in the past somewhere your bank details etc. given

write me gladly over the Communicator an can help you to check your system with it would then be excluded that someone has nested with you

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gamble1
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Begbie wrote on 27/06/2019 at 13:20: the ITAN (paper TANs) will be abolished in September
the mTAN will continue to exist.


and on the topic, the cops will surely receive the delivery address of the ordered sim card from vodafone.
if the delivery address was not disguised (e.g. via a hacked Packstation account), it should be easy to find Marco.
although that would have been pretty stupid of him, if he would have given his own address as delivery address... hm...
report in any case times as this goes on.

you do not think seriously that this Marco what knows Marco and the Te are mostwarscheinlich only chess pieces

Normal procedure in such a case

The perpetrators are practically impossible to determine because A ) mostly abroad and B ) very well encrypted

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ruhrpott
Expert
We can't say anything about the case as such. But what we can say is that if it is true, your next step must be to the police station. I can't understand why you didn't do that until now.
And in the first place it is not even about the fact that they can clarify this, but about the fact that this is deposited there with the appropriate facts and the charge against unknown is taken up

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DiamondDonut
Top Member
gamble1 wrote on 06/27/2019 at 14:20
possibly the plan was to report the loss of the account and open a new one

and pay out there

is for someone who can order a sim to another address very easy believe me that

Italy is me Personally New otherwise Pingen the always from Russia etc. to

recently I had a small gap on my servers and a few from Russia were able to sit for 12 hours until I had solved the problem they are always trying where it works

@TE

have you in the past somewhere your bank details etc. given

write to me via the communicator can help you to check your system so that would then be excluded that someone has nested with you

I get daily SMS with a Verification code from Twitch (2-way authentication), for a while exactly the same at Playstation Network and Apple... someone is constantly trying to get into my accounts, but as long as he can not get into my mailbox and read my SMS, it bothers me actually quite little

Actually, it's enough if you put your email address on a "wrong" site+have a too weak email password and you're screwed

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Anonym
We are not being sold for fools here

If someone steals your data and registers with your data in the casino and allegedly even deposited over 2000 euros in a casino with what hope?

Let's assume that he has ordered a new sim card bezuegjich your phone number, which vollspasst then transfer this amount to an account where he can withdraw the money. Why does he gamble with other people's money that does not belong to him?

You screwed up and gambled away the money your family needs. That gambling addicts even lie that they have been robbed, we have heard umpteen times in the press

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Dbac79
Elite

Desperate38 wrote on 06/27/2019 00:17: Hello everyone,
I got a call asking if I deposited money. I first thought it was a scam call, foreign number and I didn't understand the name either. So I asked and it was explained to me that it was a cssino and that large deposits were made and they want to know if I authorized it. I denied and then they asked me to say my username, which I couldn't because I had never created an account
The caller said he would pass it on and I would hear back.

I then reported this to the bank, they were able to recover 2x 500 euros. 2000 Euro not. Everything happened in one night

After weeks, the casino contacted me and announced that MY account was closed due to lack of verification.
I wrote back that it is not my account and that it is of course in my mind that there is no account in my name.
And since my data has been misused, that the whole thing goes into review and they get back to me

Then I was asked to submit the complaint to the bank, I sent further correspondence, because my account was first closed for security and I had to apply for new access data.

No one had my data, so I think as a layman I was hacked at some point.

When I sent all this, I was told today that I will not get my money.

I called there and the employee just kept repeating that he can't do anything. Me either, put through nothing.

Then I wrote another mail and asked why now, although I have fulfilled all the conditions I do not get my money. After all, they have received it by fraud.

And they have deposited without having a verification.

On it came again, very close they could not do anything.

" Dear Xxxxx


As already mentioned, we are powerless in this case.

Your personal data is your responsibility, herewith we refer to the following points of the GTC:

5. RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PLAYER

5.5 The Player's login data is strictly confidential. The Player is obliged to keep his login data secret. The Player shall at all times use its best efforts to maintain the secrecy of its login data.

5.6 The Player should never write down, communicate or share passwords with other persons. The player himself is responsible for keeping his account details, username and password secret and confidential. Should a player reveal, share or lose their username and/or password, OCG cannot be held responsible for any resulting loss or damage. OCG employees never ask for a player's password.

5.8 The player bears responsibility for any unauthorized use of his/her username or password. The player is responsible for all activity on his account until OCG receives a report of abuse of an account.

More information can be found here: https://www.onlinecasino-eu.com/agb"


I replied to this again:

" Dear Sir or Madam,


You are not powerless.



I have taken full responsibility for my data.

Moreover, your policy refers to a PLAYER! But I have never had an account with you as a real person.

NONE of these points apply to me at all. How am I supposed to share data that I didn't even know existed!



You too can be hacked!



You don't want to pay back the money, although you know exactly that this is in no way ok in my case and you did NOT verify before depositing and then wrote and called me yourself!



I am facing a catastrophe and you are a company and you are keeping money that has been improperly paid to you.

I ask you again, are you really comfortable with this?

I work every day and now I have nothing at all and of course you can make a refund like any other business, something like that every company does in case of fraud or even goodwill etc. And that would be the way it should be.



I continue to politely ask you to change your decision, I can't for the life of me imagine you really want to keep money that was stolen from a woman with a child.



Sincerely, xxxxx





My question, do I have any chance of success?



Thanks for your answers in advance, am totally desperate!








they would still have to be able to trace from which ip address account was opened or deposits were made

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