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# Other Casinos #: Betbeast complaint (Page 2)

Topic created on 29th Jul. 2024 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 22 | Views: 1,046
gamble1
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Betbeast complaint

30th Jul. 2024, at 05:06 am CEST#16
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T0uchTheSky wrote on July 29, 2024 at 3:52 pm:
Slots run better with Bonus money, so please fabirano, not you too . Just like some people claim when I turn on music the slots run much better, or at 2am at night the slots always run well.

That's just an illusion, because when you play with bonus money, you naturally have more money at your disposal. And with more money, you naturally have more chances to win something and the playing time is of course much longer, and if you have a dry spell, the balance doesn't go down so quickly.

The fact that you should withdraw the money first and then Deposit it again is just a big trap to save a lot of money, because unfortunately there are a lot of people who don't read the bonus conditions. Even if it said 50 Euro max cashout, some people just don't understand it ^^^^

If it really worked better with bonus money, I would already be broke, because at Winz I only play with real money or I don't think they have any bonus money at all. And what can I say, with Tournament prizes I'm in the black overall ...


Winz has bonus money but beware, you can't find the banned games and it gives the impression that there are none at all, support had to send them to me manually, it's a similar list to all the others

Regarding the payout after bonus turnover, you can clearly say that in the past there was no such thing but now almost 99% of the providers do it that way

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zocker0815
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Betbeast complaint

30th Jul. 2024, at 07:28 am CEST#17
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gamble1 wrote on 07/30/2024 05:06 AM:
Winz has Bonus money but beware the banned games are not found and it gives the impression there are none at all the support had to send them to me manually is a similar list to all the others

Regarding the payout after bonus turnover, you can clearly say that in the past there was no such thing but now almost 99% of the providers do it that way

You don't normally need that, I think it's the same as with lucky etc. The games are automatically blocked, or I don't think I've ever had a bonus there... because the ones from the wheel are wager free and have nothing to do with bonus money

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zocker0815
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Betbeast complaint

30th Jul. 2024, at 07:42 am CEST#18
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T0uchTheSky wrote on July 29, 2024 at 3:52 pm:
Slots run better with Bonus money, so please fabirano, not you too . Just like some people claim when I turn on music the slots run much better, or at 2am at night the slots always run well.

That's just an illusion, because when you play with bonus money, you naturally have more money at your disposal. And with more money, you naturally have more chances to win something and the playing time is of course much longer, and if you have a dry spell, the balance doesn't go down so quickly.

The fact that you should withdraw the money first and then Deposit it again is just a big trap to save a lot of money, because unfortunately there are a lot of people who don't read the bonus conditions. Even if it said 50 Euro max cashout, some people just don't understand it ^^^^

If it really worked better with bonus money, I would already be broke, because at Winz I only play with real money or I don't think they have any bonus money at all. And what can I say, with Tournament prizes I'm in the black overall ...


i only play 90% of the time with 100% deposit Bonuses and i can tell you one thing, or rather the most noticeable thing you notice with them, if you have a run with the bonuses and hit 2-3k and then still have to wager, you often get free spins at the end and that with 200-300x and the intermediate counters are often


But as soon as the wager is completed, it is usually the case that it closes completely afterwards, no intermediate wins and when free spins come, you still have 5x in it

I explain this because this has already happened to me 100 times, that's why I don't play a cent more after the wager is finished, sure the exception could be that maybe 1-2 hits come but as I said the rule after that closes everything completely, often it even happens that I realize during the game that the wager is finished because after that it is completely dead


And how you want to rebuke others you have no idea yourself you can only make assumptions yourself or do you have your own casino? Where you can prove your assertion?

Ps no offense meant but you can't claim so and so if you have no proof and trust in the bona fide casinos

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frapi07
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Betbeast complaint

30th Jul. 2024, at 08:50 am CEST#19
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zocker0815 wrote on 30.07.2024 07:42:

And how you want to rebuke others you have no idea yourself you can only make assumptions yourself or do you have your own casino? Where you can prove your assertion?

Ps no offense meant but you can't claim so and so if you have no proof and trust in the bona fide casinos


Here I can only agree with you. I wrote from the start that I was purely speculating and that we don't know and will never know the real reasons for certain practices - such as why you have to pay out real money that was earned through a bonus.

One speculation is that the system still considers the balance as a bonus and that you have a better RTP with bonus money. Trying to invalidate this speculation with another speculation is simply weak. There are various reasons why you might think this. Experience plays an important role here.


It is mega striking how different the RTP value can be with bonus credit. Here I have also provided evidence that I am not just lucky. I mean, GJ already has a big reach, but it's really funny how many in the one "thread" I linked had made it to 20-100€ with 10 spins. With 10 spins... not with 50-100 and at StarGames, an online casino where you often read about horrendous RTP values.

I have only played once with a Deposit bonus and my experience is identical to yours. I deposited €50 and had €100 to play with. I didn't play with 5-10€ per spin, but 1-2€. I got to 1.5k quite easily. How often does that happen with raw depositors?

Regardless of that, everyone can think as they like. I find it very dangerous when you try to portray people as conspiracy theorists just because they have a different opinion to your own. I have never claimed that I know the only truth and that all other speculations/theories are wrong. Furthermore, I didn't write something like "you have to push the ladder this way and that" or other fairy tales where you know that they can't correspond to reality.

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T0uchTheSky
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Betbeast complaint

30th Jul. 2024, at 10:54 am CEST#20
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zocker0815 wrote on 30.07.2024 at 07:42:
i only play 90% with 100% Deposit Bonuses and one thing i can tell you, or the most noticeable thing you notice with these, if you have a run with the bonuses and hit 2-3k and then still have to wager, you often get free spins at the end and that with 200-300x and the intermediate counters are frequent


But as soon as the wager is completed, it is usually the case that it closes completely afterwards, no intermediate wins and when free spins come, you still have 5x in it

I explain this because this has already happened to me 100 times, that's why I don't play a cent more after the wager is finished, sure the exception could be that maybe 1-2 hits come but as I said the rule after that closes everything completely, often it even happens that I realize during the game that the wager is finished because after that it is completely dead


And how you want to rebuke others you have no idea yourself you can only make assumptions yourself or do you have your own casino? Where you can prove your assertion?

Ps no offense meant but you can't claim so and so if you have no proof and trust in the bona fide casinos


Of course I can't give you any proof and I don't own a casino. And I haven't just been playing Online Casinos since yesterday, I play with both real money and Bonus money, and not just a little. For me personally, there is no difference, as I said, you just need a lot of luck.

If it works better for you with bonus money, then everything is ok. Because what does Confucius always say: different opinions in a democracy are good, haha ...

"And how you want to put others in their place"

But please, I was just giving my opinion, or was I trying to pound my opinion into frabiano's brain, haha ...

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Betbeast complaint

30th Jul. 2024, at 06:21 pm CEST#21
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zocker0815 wrote on 30.07.2024 07:28:

You don't normally need that, I think it's like lucky etc.. the games are automatically blocked, or I don't think I've ever had a bonus there... because the ones from the wheel are wager free and have nothing to do with bonus money

The normal ones from the wheel yes but I once had the case with the Deposit bonus at the beginning and I personally still like to have the list because in the end if they forget to block a game nobody wants to know anything about it knows how it is

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frapi07
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Betbeast complaint

30th Jul. 2024, at 10:34 pm CEST#22
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 07/30/2024 10:54 AM:


But please, I was just stating my opinion, or was I trying to pound my opinion into frabiano's brain, haha ...

Feel free to do so, I accept any opinion

But it read like you thought I was a conspiracy theorist ^^

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zocker0815
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Betbeast complaint

31st Jul. 2024, at 04:00 am CEST#23
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 07/30/2024 10:54 AM:
Of course I can't give you any proof and I don't own a casino either. And I haven't just been playing Online Casinos since yesterday, I play with both real money and Bonus money, and not just a little. For me personally there is no difference, as I said, you just need a lot of luck.

If it works better for you with bonus money, then everything is ok. Because what does Confucius always say: different opinions in a democracy are good, haha ...

"And how you want to put others in their place"

But please, I was just giving my opinion, or was I trying to pound my opinion into frabiano's brain, haha ...

all good at the end of the day, everyone has to decide for themselves how to do it




gamble1 wrote on 30.07.2024 at 18:21:

The normal ones from the wheel yes but I once had the case with the Deposit bonus at the beginning and I personally still like to have the list because in the end if they forget to block a game nobody wants to know about it knows how it is

that's why I mainly only play the standard games of which I know by heart that there are no banned games, so I don't like to play games that I don't know or are new, especially when you get into such a game and the lien bet is more clearly highlighted than the total bet, where you can often confuse puts on 1€ while you have a 10€ bet


my brother once made 2 pushers before he realized it, I think it was at luckydreams, had 1500€ to pay out, thought he wouldn't get it, but the casino said nothing anyway

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