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21st Nov. 2021, at 10:48 am CET#1
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The casino collects the 5% taxes, has the 5 seconds rule, etc. Unfortunately, I was able to set my Deposit limit above 1000€ without any problems. This is illegal according to the new State Treaty on Gambling §6c GlüStV 2021. Unfortunately, I do not know which authority to contact in this case
It continues to be difficult to say the least that I was able to register and deposit an account even though I have an active self-exclusion at sister casino Videoslots
Too bad actually. After all, the payout morale of the casinos is very good.
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21st Nov. 2021, at 11:13 am CET#2
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G****p wrote on 21.11.2021 at 10:48 am: (..). Unfortunately, I do not know which authority to contact in this case. (...)
Well, annoying...
It must be really annoying for you to create an account in a gambling forum instead of just asking google...
Just out of curiosity, how much have you sunk into Mr Vegas because of the non-existent €1000 limit?
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21st Nov. 2021, at 01:59 pm CET#3
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Well, cynical...
My point was whether a German instance is now responsible for this. Unfortunately, I could not answer this via Google. Allegedly, a local instance should be established. This is probably not the case so far Accordingly, it would have to be the MGA. But since the casino is also registered in the UK, I am really undecided
In addition, I am also concerned about whether this casino simply whistles on this rule or whether I have misunderstood it. I'm also not a "hey I gambled away money and want my losses back" kind of guy. I have "only" sunk 350€ and will therefore not go down.
It's just questionable to pull the 5% tax from the customer per spin (on which you have to wait 5 seconds *snore*), but at the same time ignore other rules. Maybe this question will help other players in their decision to play at this casino or VS
Thanks for your help, this is where you had to live up to your nick
G****p wrote on 21.11.2021 at 10:48 am: The casino collects the 5% tax, has the 5 second rule, etc. Unfortunately, I was able to set my Deposit limit above € 1000 without any problems. According to the new State Treaty on Gambling §6c GlüStV 2021, this is not permitted. Unfortunately, I don't know which authority I need to contact in this case.
It is still difficult, to say the least, that I was able to register and deposit an account despite having an active self-exclusion at the sister casino Videoslots.
A pity really. After all, the payout morale of the casinos is very good.
The new gambling authorities will be located in the city of Halle (Saale) (still under construction) and will probably not be operational until 2023.
If a casino applies for a German license (and receives approval, of course), it must comply with the new Interstate Gambling Treaty.
As of today: no licenses have yet been approved (exception SH as ever) - and despite "toleration" (01.07.2021), all Online Casinos are illegal to date (from a purely legal point of view).
Conversely, this means that no casino is interested in the €1000 deposit limit, just as you are not interested in the fact that you are playing illegally.
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21st Nov. 2021, at 04:20 pm CET#5
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The casino also simply keeps the 5% tax. That means you can deduct another 5% from the already low RTP
Legal illegal shit? No, actually it doesn't. I actually hoped that at least some of the black sheep can be sorted out. But I guess all this has done is make the casinos rip you off even more
Thanks in any case for the info and have a nice Sunday
The 5% tax is therefore simply kept by the casino. That means you can deduct another 5% from the already low RTP.
What is going on in the background we will probably never know.
But I could imagine that it was buttoned to "certain conditions", so that some casinos offer their gambling despite the lack of a license or are "tolerated".
But those who actually pay this tax (or at least a fraction of it) that we will certainly learn soon.
These will be the first to advertise with a (verifiably) German license.
Well and what the RTP concerns, the MGA is started and has increased the fuel prices and for all others that was of course a found food... (of course also for the overseas candidates or wherever the hang out )
Legal illegal give a shit? No, not really.
Oops sorry my mistake, I didn't mean to generalize you.
G****p wrote on 21.11.2021 at 10:48 am: The casino collects the 5% tax, has the 5 second rule, etc. Unfortunately, I was able to set my Deposit limit above € 1000 without any problems. According to the new State Treaty on Gambling §6c GlüStV 2021, this is not permitted. Unfortunately, I don't know which authority I need to contact in this case.
It is still difficult, to say the least, that I was able to register and deposit an account despite having an active self-exclusion at the sister casino Videoslots.
A pity really. The payout morale of the casinos is very good.
Feel free to name the casino. It also helps others with their evaluation.
Regarding your indirect question: The 'Lower Saxony Ministry of the Interior and Sport' is responsible for licenses and gambling and Sport' has taken over the tasks for licenses and gambling control on a cross-state basis gambling control. This is what it says:
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Certain tasks in gambling supervision are carried out on a cross-state basis. For example, licenses for commercial gaming brokers operating in more than one federal state are issued by the Lower Saxony Ministry of the Interior and Sport. The same applies to cross-state measures to prevent payment flows for illegal gambling.
Licenses for the organization of sports betting and permits for the organization and brokering of horse betting on the Internet are issued by the state of Hesse on a state-wide basis. Other responsibilities lie in Hamburg (Gemeinsame Klassenlotterie der Länder - GKL), in Rhineland-Palatinate (nationwide social lotteries such as Aktion Mensch, Deutsche Fernsehlotterie) and in North Rhine-Westphalia (advertising on the Internet and on television).
I only added the 2nd paragraph so that you can see how this is distributed across the federal states.
In the 3rd paragraph above (see source) it says:
Gambling within the meaning of the GlüStV may only be offered with a permit from the competent authority (see below on the responsibilities and special regulations for small lotteries). Special restrictions apply to offers on the Internet. An Internet license can only be issued for lotteries, sports and horse betting. Other Games of chance are prohibited on the Internet.
This means that all casinos have been able to apply for a German license for a long time. But they do not. Otherwise they are prohibited and illegal here. So if there are no regulations in your federal state, Lower Saxony would be the Contact for you. I also know that they are transnational (always means: for the whole of Germany) payment providers + new VPN providers and IP blocking regulate. Now I don't know how useful it is to report this, because it affects all Casinos. All of them don't have a German license and could have had them for a long time. At the moment, they are pulling out all German players, with a few exceptions. That's why we should talk about it or you need to think about it, whether at all?
I don't want to start anything big or anything, it's the mafia you're messing with in the end.
It's just strange when casinos simply collect 5% on every spin. These are crazy sums that are simply tapped. And if they do it - maybe in the hope of a German license, whatever - they should also follow the other rules. But the bottom line is that the German state has passed another half-baked law that only helps the operators, but perhaps also drives some players away from gambling, because all these rules are ridiculous and exhausting
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It continues to be difficult to say the least that I was able to register and deposit an account even though I have an active self-exclusion at sister casino Videoslots
Too bad actually. After all, the payout morale of the casinos is very good.
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Well, annoying...
It must be really annoying for you to create an account in a gambling forum instead of just asking google...
Just out of curiosity, how much have you sunk into Mr Vegas because of the non-existent €1000 limit?
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My point was whether a German instance is now responsible for this. Unfortunately, I could not answer this via Google. Allegedly, a local instance should be established. This is probably not the case so far Accordingly, it would have to be the MGA. But since the casino is also registered in the UK, I am really undecided
In addition, I am also concerned about whether this casino simply whistles on this rule or whether I have misunderstood it. I'm also not a "hey I gambled away money and want my losses back" kind of guy. I have "only" sunk 350€ and will therefore not go down.
It's just questionable to pull the 5% tax from the customer per spin (on which you have to wait 5 seconds *snore*), but at the same time ignore other rules. Maybe this question will help other players in their decision to play at this casino or VS
Thanks for your help, this is where you had to live up to your nick
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The new gambling authorities will be located in the city of Halle (Saale) (still under construction) and will probably not be operational until 2023.
If a casino applies for a German license (and receives approval, of course), it must comply with the new Interstate Gambling Treaty.
As of today: no licenses have yet been approved (exception SH as ever) - and despite "toleration" (01.07.2021), all Online Casinos are illegal to date (from a purely legal point of view).
Conversely, this means that no casino is interested in the €1000 deposit limit, just as you are not interested in the fact that you are playing illegally.
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Legal illegal shit? No, actually it doesn't. I actually hoped that at least some of the black sheep can be sorted out. But I guess all this has done is make the casinos rip you off even more
Thanks in any case for the info and have a nice Sunday
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What is going on in the background we will probably never know.
But I could imagine that it was buttoned to "certain conditions", so that some casinos offer their gambling despite the lack of a license or are "tolerated".
But those who actually pay this tax (or at least a fraction of it) that we will certainly learn soon.
These will be the first to advertise with a (verifiably) German license.
Well and what the RTP concerns, the MGA is started and has increased the fuel prices and for all others that was of course a found food... (of course also for the overseas candidates or wherever the hang out )
Legal illegal give a shit? No, not really.
Oops sorry my mistake, I didn't mean to generalize you.
Also a nice (rest) Sunday
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Feel free to name the casino. It also helps others with their evaluation.
Regarding your indirect question: The 'Lower Saxony Ministry of the Interior and Sport' is responsible for licenses and gambling
and Sport' has taken over the tasks for licenses and gambling control on a cross-state basis
gambling control. This is what it says:
Copy:
Certain tasks in gambling supervision are carried out on a cross-state basis. For example, licenses for commercial gaming brokers operating in more than one federal state are issued by the Lower Saxony Ministry of the Interior and Sport. The same applies to cross-state measures to prevent payment flows for illegal gambling.
Licenses for the organization of sports betting and permits for the organization and brokering of horse betting on the Internet are issued by the state of Hesse on a state-wide basis. Other responsibilities lie in Hamburg (Gemeinsame Klassenlotterie der Länder - GKL), in Rhineland-Palatinate (nationwide social lotteries such as Aktion Mensch, Deutsche Fernsehlotterie) and in North Rhine-Westphalia (advertising on the Internet and on television).
I only added the 2nd paragraph so that you can see how this is distributed across the federal states.
In the 3rd paragraph above (see source) it says:
Gambling within the meaning of the GlüStV may only be offered with a permit from the competent authority (see below on the responsibilities and special regulations for small lotteries). Special restrictions apply to offers on the Internet. An Internet license can only be issued for lotteries, sports and horse betting. Other Games of chance are prohibited on the Internet.
This means that all casinos have been able to apply for a German license for a long time.
But they do not. Otherwise they are prohibited and illegal here.
So if there are no regulations in your federal state, Lower Saxony would be the
Contact for you. I also know that they are transnational (always means:
for the whole of Germany) payment providers + new VPN providers and IP blocking
regulate. Now I don't know how useful it is to report this, because it affects all
Casinos. All of them don't have a German license and could have had them for a long time.
At the moment, they are pulling out all German players, with a few exceptions.
That's why we should talk about it or you need to think about it,
whether at all?
Source:
https://www.mi.niedersachsen.de/startseite/themen/allgemeine_angelegenheiten_des_inneren/glucksspiel/gluecksspiel-124270.html
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It's just strange when casinos simply collect 5% on every spin. These are crazy sums that are simply tapped. And if they do it - maybe in the hope of a German license, whatever - they should also follow the other rules. But the bottom line is that the German state has passed another half-baked law that only helps the operators, but perhaps also drives some players away from gambling, because all these rules are ridiculous and exhausting
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