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29th Oct. 2019, at 10:18 pm CET#11

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Jo all funny - but much more funny is that people like mathias can easily pay out over 40K - supposedly at least. He lives in Malta but you can often see at his cash outs that he pays out to German accounts. I was times Matthias inquire whether he also so nen shit has /te!

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29th Oct. 2019, at 10:25 pm CET#12

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it is always best to have a complete Verification and send all documents before making the first Deposit

They also accept the first copies of everything and in my experience I have to say that I have never had problems with withdrawals when I have done it this way

And those were also 5 digit sums

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29th Oct. 2019, at 11:33 pm CET#13

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nico85xxx wrote on 10/29/2019 at 22:25: best also always before the first Deposit completely verify and send all documents there

Since the strangely always accept the first copies of everything and in my experience I must say that when I did it so I never had problems with withdrawals

And those were also 5 digit sums

Does not bring anything, these are not a normal KYC procedure but here is asked for the origin of the money. This is called SOW and is usually only asked for higher amounts.

Unlike people like Totoro, I see no reason to withhold the money in full to someone <an den Eiern zu haben>, at least you should pay out up to the sum of deposits first and then send the rest when the necessary documents have been successfully checked. I would call that fair, then I could also say that it is at least in the approach responsible. In this way, however, as it is usually done, the money is sometimes withheld for weeks and the player gets a headache because he does not know what comes next.

Dear TE, as I said get in touch with Caro (here on Gamblejoe via communicator/private message). She can get in touch with the manager and help solve the problem.</an>

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29th Oct. 2019, at 11:39 pm CET#14

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Kleinkariert wrote on 10/29/2019 at 11:33 pm

Unlike people like Totoro, I don't see any reason here to withhold the money in full to <an den Eiern zu haben>pay</an> someone <an den Eiern zu haben>, at least you should pay out up to the amount of the deposits first and then send the rest once the required documents have been successfully verified.

Ever heard of money laundering? Ultimately, you should ALWAYS consider all aspects and not just what comes to mind so cheerfully times. Not for nothing is this also described in the terms and conditions. They are not there for fun or because someone was bored.</an>

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30th Oct. 2019, at 12:15 am CET#15

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Totoro wrote on 10/29/2019 at 11:39 pm
Ever heard of money laundering? Ultimately, you should ALWAYS look at all aspects and not just what comes to mind so blithely. It's not for nothing that this is also described in the T&Cs. They are not there for fun or because someone was bored.

so it looks like that's why it is with such amounts of money something more thorough
and in most casinos you have to convert your Deposit
at least once before you can withdraw your money again.
otherwise casinos would be just too paradisiacal for money laundering

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30th Oct. 2019, at 12:28 am CET#16

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Totoro wrote on 10/29/2019 at 11:39 pm
Ever heard of money laundering? Ultimately, you should ALWAYS look at all aspects and not just what comes to mind so blithely. It's not for nothing that this is also described in the T&Cs. They are not there for fun or because someone was bored.

You justify your statement that is only checked at payout with <weil man den Spieler dann an den Eiern hat>and would be correct that is checked directly from where the money comes from. Now you justify a SOW query again only at payout with money laundering and what would have been correct now? Correct at Deposit check where the money comes from, you could block the money directly after deposit and ask and if the player refuses then it is transferred back.

The above procedure has nothing to do with real money laundering prevention, even the 1x wagering has NOTHING to do with it. The UKGC even stipulates that the Verification must be done directly, a wagering on deposited funds is prohibited for UK players. The MGA is not interested in this, they formulate it more loosely and yet the providers seem to be particularly exemplary to extend the hard rules to fight against money laundering? No one really believes that except someone who would send his original ID by mail to Malta because he believes that this is all really necessary.

A good casino would not ask for documents that already exist, especially documents that used to be valid and now with SOW are no longer valid. The whole process is made more complicated than it should be, such a procedure should take less than 30 minutes but no it does not. We accept weeks of back and forth and cheerfully justify because it comes to mind: This is normal, that has its correctness.</weil>

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30th Oct. 2019, at 12:48 am CET#17

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Kleinkariert wrote on 30.10.2019 at 00:28 Clock
You justify your statement that is only checked at disbursement with <weil man den Spieler dann an den Eiern hat>and would be correct that is directly checked from where the money comes from. Now you justify a SOW query REPEATEDLY only at withdrawal with money laundering and what would have been correct now? Correct at Deposit check where the money comes from, you could block the money directly after deposit and ask and if the player refuses then it is transferred back.

The above procedure has nothing to do with real money laundering prevention, even the 1x wagering has NOTHING to do with it. The UKGC even stipulates that the Verification must be done directly, a wagering on deposited funds is prohibited for UK players. The MGA is not interested in this, they formulate it more loosely and yet the providers seem to be particularly exemplary to extend the hard rules to fight against money laundering? No one really believes that except someone who would send his original ID by mail to Malta because he believes that this is all really necessary.

A good casino would not ask for documents that already exist, especially documents that used to be valid and now with SOW are no longer valid. The whole process is made more complicated than it should be, such a procedure should take less than 30 minutes but no it does not. We accept weeks of back and forth and cheerfully justify because it comes to mind: This is normal, that has its correctness.

you're right such procedures take sometimes abhorrently long it is yes
even casinos where it takes 5 days or more just to get an id card
an id card and the residence to verify. certainly there are also casinos which
so what artificially in the length pull...I would not swear that now
isja also not everywhere so...and if it times what longer dauertz...who knows
maybe it's just a new small casino and they have only one sitting there
who has to do the whole mud...who knows</weil>

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30th Oct. 2019, at 12:51 am CET#18

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You obviously don't want to understand why people are testing here at exactly the point where the TE has now stumbled. I have paraphrased it flowery with
"have by the balls".

Do me a favor and give me a reason why a player should play at casino (which one, you can choose) if they block his money when depositing and want to know where it comes from. One is actually enough, I'm curious. By the way, cool logos or emails with a nice name are not reasons.

Another thing: what in God's name does the UKGC have to do with a Maltese casino like Lapalingo/Lucky, especially in connection with a player from Germany? Can you enlighten me in this regard?

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30th Oct. 2019, at 05:45 am CET#19

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Totoro wrote on 10/30/2019 00:51: You obviously don't want to understand why people are checking here at the exact point where the TE has now stumbled. I paraphrased it flowerily as
"have it by the balls".

Do me a favor and give me a reason why a player should play at casino (which one, you can choose) if they block his money when depositing and want to know where it comes from. One is actually enough, I'm curious. By the way, cool logos or emails with a nice name are not reasons.

Another thing: what in God's name does the UKGC have to do with a Maltese casino like Lapalingo/Lucky, especially in connection with a player from Germany? Can you enlighten me in this regard?

No, I don't really want to understand it. Why it is done at the time of withdrawal has but not only that the <Grund>player must then do it to get the money, but has several reasons and they are called stalling tactics. As vomvom12 wrote, it may be that a casino is smaller and just needs a few more days, is also perfectly legitimate. What is not legitimate is that the MGA does not regulate it.

I mentioned the UKGC because I wanted to refute your argument with the money laundering, however, you can also see at the UKGC what the MGA oversleeps. The whole Verification process would have to be regulated by the MGA so that all casinos check from the first Deposit where the money comes from or whether the person has it available at all. I was not talking about Lord Lucky itself, but about the process of a Source of Wealth check, which is usually carried out for higher sums.

My reason why a player should play there is that he knows that everything will work out with the payout and above all that this casino acts seriously by not bothering him first with the payout. The whole thing could be solved even better, and who would have thought it: The UKGC has a solution ready! In the deposit area, a message is displayed that, for example, a SOW check will take place and then the player can directly collect the data and send it without being bothered first during withdrawal.

I am not even bothered by these (sometimes excessive and inefficient) processes, I am bothered by the approach of the casinos. Why should a player play at a casino that lets him deposit over 10,000 € and then makes problems during withdrawal? Would not it be better to have clarified everything in advance and could play completely relaxed? But that is not possible, you are never sufficiently verified in the current online casino situation. Something can always come up and then you have to wait, like little wonder bags waiting behind the payout button.</Grund>

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30th Oct. 2019, at 10:07 am CET#20

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fifty percent of players never reach a payout. So why waste resources and time on something that doesn't happen at all, or perhaps at best, much later?

I don't know how you think about how for-profit ventures are structured, but labor in the form of people sitting around is the most expensive item. You have to be somewhat realistic about such things. Of course it is annoying when it takes over a week with the Verification, as it does with Rabbit Ltd, but you have to go through it if you get involved

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