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slotliebe89

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 12:45 pm CET#21

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tequiero wrote on 02.02.2022 at 12:19 pm
But it is undisputed that the Bonus terms and conditions are so kunstruiert that always some fall for it

Just imagine, something like that would exist when shopping. You get 30€ extra, but when you buy certain products
buy, everything is gone. How hirnrissig!

You have to see this more as a kind of lottery. If the sweepstakes terms say:

Each participant should name a number between 1 and 100, then you certainly won't win if you pick the number 101

The one who provides the free money can also set the conditions. Nobody is forced to play or participate in a lottery with money provided for free.

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t****o

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 12:56 pm CET#22

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slotliebe wrote on 02/02/2022 at 12:45 PM
You need to think of this more as a sweepstakes/lottery. If the sweepstakes terms say:

Each participant should name a number between 1 and 100, then you certainly won't win if you pick the number 101

The one who provides the free money can also set the conditions. Nobody is forced to play or participate in a lottery with money provided for free.

I see differently, because your lottery would be very transparent.

But that's not how the bonus rules of most casinos are. They are nested, capped, certain games are forbidden, but not blocked
forbidden, but not blocked, partly you are not allowed to use more than 30% spinner increase after a win.
Everything already experienced and read.

They are designed so that the person accepts the bonus, and then falls into some bonus trap.
Of course, I can appeal to personal responsibility here. However, the bonus rules are designed in such a way
that even experienced gamblers often have problems.

Sure, an alternative would be to play without a bonus. But even there are already rules.
For example, you can not pay out more than 10 times the deposit.
Or even with the increase clause after winnings.

I think you really do not have to defend. Free money or not, but here is deliberately fooled the people,
to mpssen not to pay out high profits achieved, and you know that very well.

By the way, you can't set the rules like this. They must be transparent, not misleading, and also not against
against morality, otherwise you will lose in any court. They must be clearly written.
In addition, games that are not part of the bonus program must be blocked

If everyone wanted to set up T&Cs as he wants, there would only be fraud everywhere. So it should be logical that this does not work!

So quite so easy, as you represent that, is certainly not!

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Katharina2

Forum posts: 841 Member since: 08.07.2019

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 01:15 pm CET#23

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The rejection of the casino is okay after all. He has exceeded 28 rounds, the
The Deposit was credited. Where is the problem to create a thread about it?

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Bruns007

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Forum posts: 4 Member since: 01.02.2022

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 01:25 pm CET#24

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Katharina2 wrote on 02/02/2022 at 13:15: The rejection of the casino is ok after all. He has exceeded 28 rounds, the
Deposit was credited. Where is the problem to create a thread about this?

I did not play with my bonus balance but with my real money. The winnings from the game were credited to my bonus balance. I had not known this until now. Therefore, I was not aware of anything to have violated because I played with my money.

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gamble1

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Forum posts: 6.418 Member since: 21.04.2019

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 02:13 pm CET#25

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tequiero wrote on 02.02.2022 at 12:56 pm
I see differently, as your lottery would be very transparent.

But that's not how the bonus rules of most casinos are. They are nested, Gedeckelt, certain games are
forbidden, but not blocked, partly you are not allowed to use more than 30% spinner increase after a win.
Everything already experienced and read.

They are designed so that the person accepts the bonus, and then falls into some bonus trap.
Of course, I can appeal to personal responsibility here. However, the bonus rules are designed in such a way
that even experienced gamblers often have problems.

Sure, an alternative would be to play without a bonus. But even there are already rules.
For example, you can not pay out more than 10 times the deposit.
Or even with the increase clause after winnings.

I think you really do not have to defend. Free money or not, but here is deliberately fooled the people,
to mpssen not to pay out high profits achieved, and you know that very well.

By the way, you can't set the rules like this. They must be transparent, not misleading, and also not against
against morality, otherwise you will lose in any court. They must be clearly written.
In addition, games that are not part of the bonus program must be blocked

If everyone wanted to set up T&Cs as he wants, there would only be fraud everywhere. So it should be logical that this does not work!

So quite so easy, as you represent that, is certainly not!

Well if an electronics store now created an offer 250 € discount on cell phone XY he can also put up this quite normally next to the other products if you then buy a red phone which is next to a green but only the green gets the discount it is also not the fault of the store if that is in the small print it forbids you but no one where you may put your products

Everyone should be in the condition contracts and conditions to read and either understand and confirm or reject and go to another store it can not be that everyone must be mothered in doubt be let

Especially since the AGB's are yes before playing viewable

It is such a pity for the many money what is lost every time what you could avoid in most cases if you would read the conditions or ask the support would clear there are also such Arsc****er casinos with their 10% of the profit etc.. but they are fortunately still the exception

No one gives you what you are ripped off everywhere therefore read read read

@Caro thanks for your answer then I take that back of course was just a perception of mine

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Caro

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 02:35 pm CET#26

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We would wish ourselves, if the casinos build a note or you can not even open the games...but many casinos do not do that unfortunately. We even say ourselves that you should rather play without a bonus to simply avoid such things. But if someone plays with a bonus, he must also read the terms and conditions / bonus conditions.

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t****o

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 03:16 pm CET#27

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gamble1 wrote on 02.02.2022 at 14:13
Well if an electronics store now creates an offer 250 € discount on cell phone XY he can put this also quite normal next to the other products if you then buy a red phone which is next to a green but only the green gets the discount it is also not the fault of the store if that is in small print it forbids you but no one where you may put your products

Everyone should be in the condition contracts and conditions to read and either understand and confirm or reject and go to another store it can not be that everyone must be mothered in doubt be let

Especially since the AGB's are yes before playing viewable

It is such a pity for the many money what is lost every time what you could avoid in most cases if you would read the conditions or ask the support would clear there are also such Arsc****er casinos with their 10% of the profit etc.. but they are fortunately still the exception

No one gives you what you are ripped off everywhere therefore read read read

@Caro thanks for your answer then I take that back of course was just a perception of mine

Well, then I can but return the phone directly. I do not know any stores that so tricky in the terms and conditions, as

Casinos. We don't even need to talk about that. Do you read through the 4000 pages of terms and conditions of Google, Amazon and Co? I do not think so
And why not? Because you assume a certain basic trust. And that's why this happens again and again with new players, and now and then also with "experienced" players!

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BinGOLDiG

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 03:31 pm CET#28

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Caro wrote on 02/02/2022 at 07:49: . I know only a few casinos left that block the forbidden games or put in a pop-up window with a notice that the game must not be played....it would be nice if the casinos would put in something like that to avoid such situations. I will be happy to pass it on to the manager.

So I know this only so that I can play locked games with active bonus NOT!
For example, this is the case with the complete whitehat gaming group, in the energy casino or LVbet...!
Then you have no money in the game!
Vorallem there is even in most Curaçao buden, there you can not even open the game!

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Caro

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 03:35 pm CET#29

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Honestly, when I buy something that is on sale, I read meanwhile through the conditions. Just as with a cell phone contract (contract duration, cancellation period, etc.) or when I order something on the Internet (customs duties, return shipping costs, return options, etc.) I feel that this is quite normal. And if you get "money on top" at the casinos, then even more so, right?

I've also ordered something online and unfortunately could not send it back...well I would have read the conditions, I would have known in advance and would not have bought me that ... would have bicycle chain!

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garfield68

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2nd Feb. 2022, at 03:37 pm CET#30

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BingOo666 wrote on 02.02.2022 at 15:31
So I know this only so that I can play locked games with active bonus NOT!
Bspw is that with the complete whitehat gaming group the case, in the energy casino or LVbet...!
Then you have no money in the game!
Vorallem there is even in most Curaçao buden, there you can not even open the game!

so I find the best, because you can not even fall into the bonus trap

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