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30th Jan. 2022, at 04:37 pm CET#11
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tequiero wrote on 30/01/2022 at 16:00
After what time does the RTP have to be met? Or does it go by number of spins? Or does
the betting level also play a role? Leave everything nicely hidden, it makes it easier to play
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Why doesn't any casino clarify this?
If there were an answer to this, then slots would no longer be considered gambling per se, instead there would be promising strategies. Nevertheless, I would also like to see more transparency in RTP.
At least there are a few statements from Pragmatic that the RTP does not refer to the individual player, but to a pool to which all casinos or players are assigned. Whether this is really true is of course doubtful...
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30th Jan. 2022, at 04:47 pm CET#12
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Royal777 wrote on 30/01/2022 at 16:37
If there was an answer to this, slots would no longer be considered gambling per se, instead there would be promising strategies. That said, I would also like to see more transparency on RTP.
At least there are a few statements from Pragmatic that the RTP does not refer to the individual player, but to a pool to which all casinos or players are assigned. Whether this is really true is of course doubtful...
Well, it can still be considered gambling, even if I know the exact odds.
The lottery is no different.
E.g. that once a year per device the 5 explorers come, or after
50.000,000 spins. Find, that makes no big difference, but the casinos
would give transparency, and it would evt. thereby also more play. One
would get rid of this dirty image.
Find it extremely important to know when the e.g. 97% RTP take effect
Is it a question of time, a question of spin, or a question of money.
Actually, it should only be a question of money, but whether it is just really so......
Can actually only be positive. Everybody wants to know how high his chances actually are
stand.
xaan2012 wrote on 01/30/2022 at 10:34 am: Hi guys,
after my 600 euro win after more than 1000 euro Deposit and the alleged review of the game round, I have now requested a check up and insight into the processing meienr data from Dux and all providers. Which is my right according to DSVO and the applicable law.
I am ignored and pushed away like a toddler with messages like "You have done everything right".
Why I demand this check up.
Playing in N1 Casinos is since the new regulations no longer a game of chance but a pure profiteering for the casinos.
I play for more than 10 JAáhren and deal intensively with slots providers game progress etc.. It is clear to see that the casinos of the N1 Group in my opinion to
despite licenses, which I neither serious nor otherwise positively approve.
The courses of the games are often not luck but systematich. And I suspect that with the data is driven nonsense.
After the 600 euro weche I have won on 10 cent I had to deposit more than 300, before I have seen nen RTP of 50%. I play on mx 40 cent and the deadspins that come after this win consistently in All Slots go beyond the 90% and that for now more than 4 weeks daily.
I want this evidence, my right to inspect the processing, storage change my data to have myself einblick what happens there.
If it is demonstrably visible that everything is good, I take back all accusations, if suspicious things are to be seen, I will take action against it. I also have a programmer on my side who checks the data.
Thanks for your feedback
With all due respect, I think you are just as wrong as the guys who run to the lawyer after 250k lost bets and insist on their rights
You are an adult "man" live with the truth that happiness can not be calculated.
And the recommendation with the psychiatrist applies here to all those who have lost the hang to reality, as if you could influence luck, Süffisanter train of thought.
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30th Jan. 2022, at 05:33 pm CET#14
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tequiero wrote on 01/30/2022 at 12:28 PM
I always find this highly reprehensible when people like you, who may have read a few books on psychology,
write here, one should see a psychologist.
What if he is right? What if there is more going on behind the scenes than you can guess? Does the brain then still
for patterns, or has it found the pattern?
Not everyone who writes here that things are worse is immediately a case for the psychiatrist. Especially not when hobby book readers
suggest!
He suspects something, which is his right, just as the insight into his data. And you come with a psychiatrist.
This is what he was waiting for!
And concerning patterns: if I have kept a list of purchases and expenditures in casinos for 10 years, I don't need a hobby psychologist,
to tell me such nonsense. I can tell you after 10 years exactly how it looks. At most luck and bad luck
one can still include. Whereby the casinos could of course help the bad luck.
For this I need a functioning brain, and no pattern!
hey have only read the first sentences and want to point out that psychiatrists are NOT JUST psychologists... I have not claimed that he is a case for a psychiatrist, you have interpreted that... maybe also because you think both are the same?
kyosuma wrote on 01/30/2022 at 5:10 pm
With all due respect, but I find you just as off as the guys who run to the lawyer after losing 250k stake and insist on their right.
You are an adult "man" live with the truth that happiness can not be calculated.
And the recommendation with the psychiatrist applies here to all those who have lost the hang to the reality, as if you could influence luck, Süffisanter train of thought.
Exactly
And all of you who don't think you need a psychiatrist would still be well advised to talk to a psychologist about bias'es. ^^
and to TE: assuming i'm not from a bad home... should i work on my choice of words? or does that only apply to the dregs of society who didn't have a good childhood?
You are a funny bird to me.
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30th Jan. 2022, at 05:59 pm CET#15
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tequiero wrote on 01/30/2022 at 16:47
Well, it can still be considered gambling, even if I know the exact odds.
It's no different with the lottery.
E.g. that once a year per device the 5 explorers come, or after
50.000,000 spins. Find, that makes no big difference, but the casinos
would give transparency, and it would evt. thereby also more play. One
would get rid of this dirty image.
Find it extremely important to know when the e.g. 97% RTP take effect
Is it a question of time, a question of spin, or a question of money.
Actually, it should only be a question of money, but whether it is just really so......
Can actually only be positive. Everybody wants to know how high his chances actually are
stand.
at Videoslots or mrvegas you can see what a special game has given in the last 24h and especially with much played games the value is relatively close to the values given by the providers...
is it a question of time or spin? well time is unlikely, because you would have to predict how much would be played in a period of time so it is more a question of spin...
i think gamomat is transparent, because each spin is identified by number in the upper right corner and you can always see it. And you can see by the length of the ID number that it is in the million billion range of the number of spins.
But more than that we probably can not see, I think it is also certainly part of the trade secrets of each Provider as the rtp works exactly
To check this is then in the licensors or independent companies (you can often see in the agbs).... Of course you can question that. My opinion is that it will be done right, because such "secrets" would be revealed over time - and for that there are onlineslots etc. for quite a long time.
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30th Jan. 2022, at 07:22 pm CET#16
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kyosuma wrote on 01/30/2022 at 5:10 PM
With all due respect, but I find you just as off as the guys who run after 250k lost bet to the lawyer and insist on their right
You are an adult "man" live with the truth that happiness can not be calculated.
And the recommendation with the psychiatrist applies here to all those who have lost the hang to the reality, as if you could influence luck, Süffisanter train of thought.
Amen brother, Aaaamen!
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30th Jan. 2022, at 07:55 pm CET#17
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kyosuma wrote on 30/01/2022 at 17:10
With all due respect, but I find you just as off as the guys who run after 250k lost bet to the lawyer and insist on their right
You are an adult "man" live with the truth that happiness can not be calculated.
And the recommendation with the psychiatrist applies here to all those who have lost the hang to the reality, as if you could influence luck, Süffisanter train of thought.
It has nothing to do with luck or bad luck, if one helps the bad luck on the jumps.
That is exactly the topic. Reading helps.
And by the way: if a company, out of sheer greed, takes Germans into the registration process, fully aware of the possible
The possible legal consequences and repayments, and is sued at some point and loses
sued and loses, then that is pretty stupid. But not for the one who sued.
And again by the way: if from 100% 10% sue, such a casino can still live very well, because people
like you leave their money in the illegal booths. And do not worry, that the casinos have everything planned. Believe
not that they are so stupid.
Clever!
You are an adult whatever, live with the German law, or emigrate!
Have fun with the psychology therapist.
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30th Jan. 2022, at 08:01 pm CET#18
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Sarkasto wrote on 30.01.2022 at 17:59
at Videoslots or mrvegas you can see what a special game has given in the last 24h and especially at much played games the value is relatively close to the values given by the providers...
is it a question of time or spin? well time is unlikely, because you would have to predict how much would be played in a period of time so it is more a question of spin...
i think gamomat is transparent, because each spin is identified by number in the upper right corner and you always have an insight on it. And you can see by the length of the ID number that it is in the million billion range of the number of spins.
But more than that we probably can not see, I think it is also certainly part of the trade secrets of each Provider as the rtp works exactly
To check this is then in the licensors or independent companies (you can often see in the agbs).... Of course you can question that. My opinion is that it will be done right, because such "secrets" would be revealed over time - and for that there are onlineslots etc. for quite a long time.
I agree with you, that Psychogedöns I have actually mixed up. Find it still not nice, someone
to recommend something like that.
I guess we'll never find out the rest. Probably the first one who talks will be sunk.
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30th Jan. 2022, at 09:55 pm CET#19
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tequiero wrote on 01/30/2022 at 8:01 PM
I agree with you, that psycho stuff I actually got mixed up. Find it nevertheless not nice, someone
to recommend something like that.
I guess we'll never find out the rest. Probably the first one who talks will be sunk.
Yes, I could have phrased it differently, that's probably true. But my point was to mention psychological factors as an argument, and I can't name or know all of them... forget it.
Well, I'd like to expand a bit: running a casino - assuming everything runs "cleanly" - is in itself the perfect business model. 4-12% house advantage with slots... you can't do much wrong, because the slots run on the servers of the provider. so hire 2 people for the chat and tell them that you should refer to alleged "departments" for everything. And kyc and payouts just do it yourself. and if you then times looks how much some suchtis partly pure pump and on 5€ spins durchballern.... so there still loss to make, from the point of view of a casino is utopian I find.
so, the providers: why should they have an interest in cheating? or how should that look? even if they could "direct" the luck as administrators, how should that look? Casino A calls: yes give the thread creator here a run of bad luck.... suppose they go for it: what do they do when casino B calls?
So what I'm getting at is that the effort for a Provider independent of the casino would be ridiculous
i do not know...
it is well done that provider =/= casino and licensing authority =/= provider etc. You have to believe that they are all in cahoots.... they are all international companies (at least the providers) and especially with the providers it is clear that they CAN'T all be in the same boat... so who believes that...
Well and apart from the fact that with so large conspiracies, the probability that one is talking nonsense is quite high, comes to the fact that if a new provider comes on the market, would have to be taken up yes instant in the "strippenzieher" of the conspiracy? So this is all quite absurd...
with Wirecard it was also in such a way that the first one who talked (or tried to draw attention to it) was initially muzzled, but it was all uncovered... Online Casinos have been around longer than Wirecard and are an industry of their own... So if there was something tenable, would be loosely already what known. But it is all limited to threads of disappointed losers...
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31st Jan. 2022, at 11:32 am CET#20
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Sarkasto wrote on 30.01.2022 at 21:55
Yes, I could have worded it differently, I guess that's true. But my point was to mention psychological factors as an argument, I can't name or know them all... forget it.
Well, I'd like to expand a bit: running a casino - assuming everything runs "cleanly" - is in itself the perfect business model. 4-12% house advantage with slots... you can't do much wrong, because the slots run on the servers of the provider. so hire 2 people for the chat and tell them that you should refer to alleged "departments" for everything. And kyc and payouts just do it yourself. and if you then times looks how much some suchtis partly pure pump and on 5€ spins durchballern.... so there still loss to make, from the point of view of a casino is utopian I find.
so, the providers: why should they have an interest in cheating? or how should that look? even if they could "direct" the luck as administrators, how should that look? Casino A calls: yes give the thread creator here a run of bad luck.... suppose they go for it: what do they do when casino B calls?
So what I'm getting at is that the effort for a Provider independent of the casino would be ridiculous
i do not know...
it is well done that provider =/= casino and licensing authority =/= provider etc. You have to believe that they are all in cahoots.... they are all international companies (at least the providers) and especially with the providers it is clear that they CAN'T all be in the same boat... so who believes that...
Well and apart from the fact that with so large conspiracies, the probability that one is talking nonsense is quite high, comes to the fact that if a new provider comes on the market, would have to be taken up yes instant in the "strippenzieher" of the conspiracy? So this is all quite absurd...
with Wirecard it was also in such a way that the first one who talked (or tried to draw attention to it) was initially muzzled, but it was all uncovered... Online Casinos have been around longer than Wirecard and are an industry of their own... So if there was something tenable, would be loosely already what known. But it is all limited to threads of disappointed losers...
I don't think it would be particularly complicated. Hypothetically I would do the following:
Buy an improved "version" from the provider, if that's even necessary, and I actually can't access the profit distribution
can.
A computer calculates the inputs and outputs, who is the first depositor, high-roller, etc.. According to this, the winnings are "controlled".
Added a few more random hits, as if it really looks like true randomness, or rather that even as a winner you can
can win again, and that's how I would run it. Of course only with the good depositors from 50 cent or 1 euro. Whether player because of 10 cent times
50€ would clear me completely schnuppe.
That is for me as an operator a really calculated risk. It helps me as an operator nothing, if at the opening a few High-Roller
come by and clear out the casino with a lucky streak. Ever heard of such a thing? Never heard of it, but it should be
should be possible in the context of gambling
With a computerized payout, I could also prevent such events, and I never go broke. Because despite
House advantage, even a casino has a risk. But going broke because of too much profit(r)n would be new to me.
Providers as well as casinos have a common interest, and that is money. They can never have enough of it.
Look at the German companies that were busted for price fixing. Did they need it? No, but the greed
was too great.
And Gauselmann and Co. are not blank slates anyway...... .
And if licensors like here have to register for inspections or license renewal, well then good night!
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If there were an answer to this, then slots would no longer be considered gambling per se, instead there would be promising strategies. Nevertheless, I would also like to see more transparency in RTP.
At least there are a few statements from Pragmatic that the RTP does not refer to the individual player, but to a pool to which all casinos or players are assigned. Whether this is really true is of course doubtful...
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Well, it can still be considered gambling, even if I know the exact odds.
The lottery is no different.
E.g. that once a year per device the 5 explorers come, or after
50.000,000 spins. Find, that makes no big difference, but the casinos
would give transparency, and it would evt. thereby also more play. One
would get rid of this dirty image.
Find it extremely important to know when the e.g. 97% RTP take effect
Is it a question of time, a question of spin, or a question of money.
Actually, it should only be a question of money, but whether it is just really so......
Can actually only be positive. Everybody wants to know how high his chances actually are
stand.
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With all due respect, I think you are just as wrong as the guys who run to the lawyer after 250k lost bets and insist on their rights
You are an adult "man" live with the truth that happiness can not be calculated.
And the recommendation with the psychiatrist applies here to all those who have lost the hang to reality, as if you could influence luck, Süffisanter train of thought.
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hey have only read the first sentences and want to point out that psychiatrists are NOT JUST psychologists... I have not claimed that he is a case for a psychiatrist, you have interpreted that... maybe also because you think both are the same?
Exactly
And all of you who don't think you need a psychiatrist would still be well advised to talk to a psychologist about bias'es. ^^
and to TE: assuming i'm not from a bad home... should i work on my choice of words? or does that only apply to the dregs of society who didn't have a good childhood?
You are a funny bird to me.
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at Videoslots or mrvegas you can see what a special game has given in the last 24h and especially with much played games the value is relatively close to the values given by the providers...
is it a question of time or spin? well time is unlikely, because you would have to predict how much would be played in a period of time so it is more a question of spin...
i think gamomat is transparent, because each spin is identified by number in the upper right corner and you can always see it. And you can see by the length of the ID number that it is in the million billion range of the number of spins.
But more than that we probably can not see, I think it is also certainly part of the trade secrets of each Provider as the rtp works exactly
To check this is then in the licensors or independent companies (you can often see in the agbs).... Of course you can question that. My opinion is that it will be done right, because such "secrets" would be revealed over time - and for that there are onlineslots etc. for quite a long time.
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Amen brother, Aaaamen!
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It has nothing to do with luck or bad luck, if one helps the bad luck on the jumps.
That is exactly the topic. Reading helps.
And by the way: if a company, out of sheer greed, takes Germans into the registration process, fully aware of the possible
The possible legal consequences and repayments, and is sued at some point and loses
sued and loses, then that is pretty stupid. But not for the one who sued.
And again by the way: if from 100% 10% sue, such a casino can still live very well, because people
like you leave their money in the illegal booths. And do not worry, that the casinos have everything planned. Believe
not that they are so stupid.
Clever!
You are an adult whatever, live with the German law, or emigrate!
Have fun with the psychology therapist.
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I agree with you, that Psychogedöns I have actually mixed up. Find it still not nice, someone
to recommend something like that.
I guess we'll never find out the rest. Probably the first one who talks will be sunk.
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Yes, I could have phrased it differently, that's probably true. But my point was to mention psychological factors as an argument, and I can't name or know all of them... forget it.
Well, I'd like to expand a bit: running a casino - assuming everything runs "cleanly" - is in itself the perfect business model. 4-12% house advantage with slots... you can't do much wrong, because the slots run on the servers of the provider. so hire 2 people for the chat and tell them that you should refer to alleged "departments" for everything. And kyc and payouts just do it yourself. and if you then times looks how much some suchtis partly pure pump and on 5€ spins durchballern.... so there still loss to make, from the point of view of a casino is utopian I find.
so, the providers: why should they have an interest in cheating? or how should that look? even if they could "direct" the luck as administrators, how should that look? Casino A calls: yes give the thread creator here a run of bad luck.... suppose they go for it: what do they do when casino B calls?
So what I'm getting at is that the effort for a Provider independent of the casino would be ridiculous
i do not know...
it is well done that provider =/= casino and licensing authority =/= provider etc. You have to believe that they are all in cahoots.... they are all international companies (at least the providers) and especially with the providers it is clear that they CAN'T all be in the same boat... so who believes that...
Well and apart from the fact that with so large conspiracies, the probability that one is talking nonsense is quite high, comes to the fact that if a new provider comes on the market, would have to be taken up yes instant in the "strippenzieher" of the conspiracy? So this is all quite absurd...
with Wirecard it was also in such a way that the first one who talked (or tried to draw attention to it) was initially muzzled, but it was all uncovered... Online Casinos have been around longer than Wirecard and are an industry of their own... So if there was something tenable, would be loosely already what known. But it is all limited to threads of disappointed losers...
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I don't think it would be particularly complicated. Hypothetically I would do the following:
Buy an improved "version" from the provider, if that's even necessary, and I actually can't access the profit distribution
can.
A computer calculates the inputs and outputs, who is the first depositor, high-roller, etc.. According to this, the winnings are "controlled".
Added a few more random hits, as if it really looks like true randomness, or rather that even as a winner you can
can win again, and that's how I would run it. Of course only with the good depositors from 50 cent or 1 euro. Whether player because of 10 cent times
50€ would clear me completely schnuppe.
That is for me as an operator a really calculated risk. It helps me as an operator nothing, if at the opening a few High-Roller
come by and clear out the casino with a lucky streak. Ever heard of such a thing? Never heard of it, but it should be
should be possible in the context of gambling
With a computerized payout, I could also prevent such events, and I never go broke. Because despite
House advantage, even a casino has a risk. But going broke because of too much profit(r)n would be new to me.
Providers as well as casinos have a common interest, and that is money. They can never have enough of it.
Look at the German companies that were busted for price fixing. Did they need it? No, but the greed
was too great.
And Gauselmann and Co. are not blank slates anyway...... .
And if licensors like here have to register for inspections or license renewal, well then good night!
That gives me to think.
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