Cashi Mashi: Fraud:Cashimaschi does not pay out win for the second time despite verification and account statements (Page 7)

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sippi wrote on 15.09.2022 at 21:45: Already mysterious with Sofort. Why you could still continue to play, although the money apparently has not landed at the casino... Well let's see how the whole thing turns out. Wish you good luck 😋

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frapi07 wrote on 15.09.2022 at 22:02

Has happened before in spring, but at that time Platin reacted and shut down all transactions using Sofort until everything could be cleared. Therefore, I am not surprised that there are problems. The only question is how the OC now acts, whether it cancels the wins completely because of this or pays it out after settling the arrears. Would the 2nd option be possible, then they would have actually already offered that, right? The TE would probably have been spared the trip to Malta + legal fees.

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depecheden1 wrote on 15.09.2022 at 22:00: Do not understand the whole
Sofort is exactly for that, it checks the account coverage etc otherwise you can not transfer. It is not retrieved from the bank. And then you can play but if you win they open a barrel ?
Gibts then also casinos with direct debit, which I can retrieve in case of loss ?

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gamble1 wrote on 09/15/2022 at 10:06 pm

Well cancellation is only in question if the TE would have knowingly executed otherwise he would be the scapegoat for the error of others

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frapi07 wrote on 09/15/2022 at 10:09 pm

You can't make a transfer if your bank balance is not enough for the transaction. There's always an error message. Unless you have an overdraft or something like that, but if you don't have that and only have a "credit account", then this is not really possible.

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gamble1 wrote on 09/15/2022 at 22:24
But it is possible with Sofort to instruct the bank with a cancellation or a recall

Usually you have there only hours better minutes but zb. now Friday evening or Saturday or Sunday you can theoretically conveniently Monday morning call the bank and cancel the payments can be cost then mostly around the 10 € per booking with a 50:50 Risk whether it works at all but in the best case you have the money back and in the worst case just 10 € per booking less

I had to do that once but not in relation to casino but there were me 10 € directly debited I was informed that there is no guarantee and the coal was at noon again on it

This is due to the simple background that Sofort also only receives the transfer and your bank must first write it off and as long as that has not happened the bank can stop it

So it is already possible only if you stop at the casino makes something that can only go wrong

@frapi07 maybe they did not know it yet or they thought well it's ok because if we are honest what's the point of running after the casino? Only more costs and what should they do? A Debt collection assign with legally ineffective claims according to the majority of opinions ?

Too many have already done that only the people are just usually not stupid and zocken then there no more therefore I think now times not the TE has done that knowingly it would be rare stupid then continue to pay in there

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frapi07 wrote on 15.09.2022 at 22:48
Yes, I knew about the cancellations too, just didn't know how long you have to do it.

I actually meant why the OC has not been asked to pay the outstanding Debt now. The excuse why the OC does not pay is that they have not received 400€. They could have put this request the TE before his Malta flight, or not? Or the OC does not do it, because as you said, it may be possible that this was provoked by the player. But you can actually find that out pretty quickly.

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Chaine92 wrote on 16.09.2022 at 01:44 Clock: @all I should have ever posted a transfer back, then it would be yes in my account statement evident which I Cashi have sent (chargeback or what it says then).as @gamble1 already says would be stupid to do so!
But that's not so....as I said at Sofort is "ONE" booking is not through. Why that is so no idea. Also, I have asked Sofort because of the mysterious "routing numbers" somewhere in the network rumschwieren...me no one could give information. Which also makes no sense to me:

1.In the mail from Cashi subject of the refusal of my payout is nothing that still 400 euros are open and I should settle this please. Had I known this, zack I would have settled it quickly. Funnily enough, it is still spoken of the "third party provider" whoever that should be...

2. Is in the mail that NONE of my Deposit could be booked...how can it then be that with Sofort only one payment is open?


I have sent Caro the email from sofort where the 400 euros that are still open in it. As soon as I get an answer from the manager I transfer the open amount. If I still have problems I will go the legal way. Here it is nice on Malta I don't let myself stress because of the whole story. I still have 2 weeks vacation and enjoy it here!

Thanks also to Caro that you are so involved! That is not self-evident. See you soon and greetings

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