Being able to cancel payments is the best "invention" in the gambling industry from the casinos' point of view. From the players' point of view, it is the most immoral and disgusting feature. What is this shit for? If I want to Deposit money, I have 100 deposit methods.... I don't have to gamble away what little I've won
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17th Oct. 2019, at 01:51 am CEST#32
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TheGoldenDwarf wrote on 16/10/2019 at 21:23: Correct upola, the OC itself is already rip-off, they do not need any additional tricks
Is no one forced to leave his money there.
Find just a bit thin argued always with self-blame and self-discipline to come when there people any, quite justified criticism, certainly, without effect on the OC.
what do you mean here thinly argued...if it happens to you for the first time
first time, I can understand it, but if you have a little experience
has a bit of experience should know that the
statements from support are always without guarantee and the
cancel payout and continue to gamble as good as always
in the pants goes...and to make the casino responsible for it
is simply ridiculous
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17th Oct. 2019, at 02:24 am CEST#33
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Well, I would call the whole thing with the cancellation of the payout a scam
Whether the support now belonged to it is sometimes put aside, because that are usually only poorly trained and poorly paid people who just do not have much idea of the matter and can have. Since errors are just pre-programmed. I would not even accuse the support of intent. Sometimes it is just so that if you have deposited with PayPal must also pay out with Paypal, or can pay out by bank only if from the account has already been a Deposit, etc..
Basically, it is always his own responsibility, whether you gamble the money won again, just as whether you just play at all, but somehow not, because exactly this self-control is just for addicts very difficult to maintain, or for some impossible. And since many gamblers are demonstrably addicted to gambling, it is probably very precisely calculated by the casinos that many players will gamble away their win again with the cancel function
On the other hand, the casinos that transfer the money with Trustly within a few seconds to your account are not much better, because the money from the account also ends up in the casino again very quickly. Best would be withdrawals that are processed quickly, so that they can no longer be canceled, but still land only after 1 or 2 days on the account, so that you have some time to cool down
Otherwise, I can only give you a few tips along the way
1. If you make a win and want to make a payout, then always let you pay out everything to the last cent. Leaving a little bit left over for gambling on the account will only lead to you being unnecessarily triggered again and when the win is gone, you will be inclined to cancel the deposit or make a new one, because you have to win again soon
2. If you have requested the withdrawal, then set yourself a deposit or turnover limit of 0 or 5 euros or so in the casino for the next few days, so that you can not gamble it away, even if you are tempted to cancel the withdrawal or deposit the win again. Sometimes you need a little help to maintain discipline and a little time to think about your decisions
Totoro wrote on 16.10.2019 at 17:30: If you were a little more attentive and not live in your one-dimensional bubble, you would know that we fly on providers like Betsson times so not. The site is old-fashioned, the Betsson customer support guys on the phone are overly slimy, and I'd have to be electrocuted on a regular basis to make a deposit. I even ask myself why in the world you should leave your hard-earned money there.
Your request, which you made to the casino, is probably read 1000 times a day. Welcome to reality, it's not all about you. Now you can ask yourself why a Concession would be appropriate for you.
To explain it for you again, I just wanted a concession from the casino because of the misinformation and not because I gambled away the money and now somehow want it back. If I couldn't live with that, I wouldn't have deposited it. For me, this is also a bit of a matter of principle. It seems to me that casinos can afford anything. It just can not be that the employee is stupid and gets right in the end. I do not play only since yesterday in OCs ...
If YOU would NOT live in your one-dimensional bubble, you would also know that we as players are directly pilloried for the smallest mistakes or rule violations. Since the casinos act quickly and take every right out of what they have and quickly still can invent. The worst is still that one is put down by the support staff as stupid and said he knew nothing about it. In addition, any facts are twisted... Oh and the chat transcripts he has not sent me by chance of course, because there everything is black on white to see. It came yes not even ne insight or other in this direction. Normally, casino employees should be familiar with their casino and be able to provide the player with the information he needs when he needs it. If I would do my job like this, I would be unemployed in the next few weeks and would probably have to look for a job as a casino employee... maybe at Betsson.... Qualifications are probably not needed for that. But my good one, it's always easy to lecture someone and make one on "I am the reason in person", if one has not yet happened something like that. Of course, now you say that I'm wrong and that it has very well happened . On the Internet you are just anonymous and no one knows you really...how shitty you really are. So for you a perfect opportunity to build a facade and an imaginary "I" as you would like it. But who knows, maybe you are even the "poorest" guy of all of us
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17th Oct. 2019, at 12:42 pm CEST#35
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I have been gambling online since 2002. I started with Poker and blackjack/roulette, and have been playing slots for about 4 years now. I have read your "problem" about 12,000 times. Mostly this flaming came from people who thought they had themselves under control. In the end, it is not so and so look for the blame on others. So for me this is nothing new. If you need a phone number from Betsson to call a supervisor there, get in touch with me. I have one on the hack, he calls me 2 times a week with "super bonus offers". Maybe he can help you.
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17th Oct. 2019, at 03:10 pm CEST#36
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Totoro wrote on 10/17/2019 at 12:42 pm: I've been gambling online since 2002. I started with Poker and blackjack/roulette, and have been playing slots for a good 4 years now. Your "problem" I have read about 12,000 times. Mostly this flaming came from people who thought they had themselves under control. In the end, it is not so and so look for the blame on others. So for me this is nothing new. If you need a phone number from Betsson to call a supervisor there, get in touch with me. I have one on the hack, he calls me 2 times a week with "super bonus offers". Maybe he can help you.
About 12,000 times read that casino staff give the player misinformation bzgl. the withdrawal options and assures one that you can cancel and pay out with the desired Zahlunsgmethode? Yes sichi toto Keep this attendant for yourself, seems to be the "best" customer because he has already eaten a fool at you. Maybe you should get a few other supervisors here and there, it can only be helpful. And you talk about me living in a bubble my naive friend. I'm sure once it hits you, you'll be the one crying the loudest. As I said, you hide behind your avatar and pretend to be 100% someone you're not... you're probably much worse off than most people here
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17th Oct. 2019, at 04:53 pm CEST#37
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It's not about making a fool of anyone, it's about aggressive marketing. I had registered there once years ago and experimented with sports betting because the odds were different there. If you have not been active for some time, you will be contacted. Sometimes more and sometimes a little penetrating often. But the boy is quite ok, because he masters small talk. That is ok.
That no one contacts you, I'm honestly not surprised at all. You are just one of those who simply get on the support's nerves. I'm a little older than you and I've played for money when you were still a wet dream of your parents. It doesn't help you one bit here, if you try to make one on thick Max. You're weak, you gambled away the money even though you wanted to pay it off. Now you're whining, nobody wants to read that here. So troll yourself and wipe your nose. Maybe you'll learn from it, you're still a youngster. See this as a lesson for life.
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Update:
I have not received any (as promised by support) transcripts of the Live Chat from on 10/10/19 and on 10/11/19 and furthermore my account has been suspended without giving any reason. I only received an email that I am currently no longer allowed to make deposits and bets. Now I have contacted the live chat again to ask why I can no longer access my account, I did not get any transcripts sent and whether the employee Alex would be there, as I would have liked to talk to him regarding the transcripts
Of course Alex was not available like last time, she said that my account was closed because the department had decided so and besides she had no access to the transcripts. Mhhh... find the whole thing quite strange as if one tries to cover up something with all force. Then came only "For further questions I should contact me after the lock on 16.1.2020"
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17th Oct. 2019, at 05:29 pm CEST#39
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Totoro wrote on 10/17/2019 at 4:53 pm: It's not about making a fool of anyone, it's about aggressive marketing. I had registered there once years ago and experimented with sports betting as the odds were different there. If you have not been active for some time, you will be contacted. Sometimes more and sometimes a little penetrating often. But the boy is quite ok, because he masters small talk. That is ok.
That no one contacts you, I'm honestly not surprised at all. You are just one of those who simply get on the support's nerves. I'm a little older than you and I've played for money when you were still a wet dream of your parents. It doesn't help you one bit here, if you try to make one on thick Max. You're weak, you gambled away the money even though you wanted to pay it off. Now you're whining, nobody wants to read that here. So troll yourself and wipe your nose. Maybe you'll learn from it, you're still a youngster. See this as a lesson for life.
Ohhhhh... and I always thought wisdom comes with age. So you're proud that you've been gambling for money forever? Well then congratulations my dear! If you have achieved nothing else in life, that's something. Your parents or your family members must be really proud of you.... especially your creditors Weak is when you just take everything my witty Gamble colleague. I still don't give a shit about the money and I'm still concerned that it can't be that casinos can just get away with anything. You are the weakest person here, because you get off on the suffering of other people to put yourself in a better light but we both know that you are basically a very small light and a very poor soul. I think it's rather sad that at your age you have to fight with people in the forum or provoke people in the forum. I asked for opinions and not that you can insult and provoke me a bit on the fly Better a wet dream than an accident in the back seat
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If you don't give a damn about money, I don't see how I could take pleasure in your suffering. There is none. Your reasoning is inconclusive. You're acting like a teenager. Are you sure they haven't banned your account because you're not allowed to play yet? Is the 16.01.2020 coincidentally your 18th birthday?
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what do you mean here thinly argued...if it happens to you for the first time
first time, I can understand it, but if you have a little experience
has a bit of experience should know that the
statements from support are always without guarantee and the
cancel payout and continue to gamble as good as always
in the pants goes...and to make the casino responsible for it
is simply ridiculous
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Whether the support now belonged to it is sometimes put aside, because that are usually only poorly trained and poorly paid people who just do not have much idea of the matter and can have. Since errors are just pre-programmed. I would not even accuse the support of intent. Sometimes it is just so that if you have deposited with PayPal must also pay out with Paypal, or can pay out by bank only if from the account has already been a Deposit, etc..
Basically, it is always his own responsibility, whether you gamble the money won again, just as whether you just play at all, but somehow not, because exactly this self-control is just for addicts very difficult to maintain, or for some impossible. And since many gamblers are demonstrably addicted to gambling, it is probably very precisely calculated by the casinos that many players will gamble away their win again with the cancel function
On the other hand, the casinos that transfer the money with Trustly within a few seconds to your account are not much better, because the money from the account also ends up in the casino again very quickly. Best would be withdrawals that are processed quickly, so that they can no longer be canceled, but still land only after 1 or 2 days on the account, so that you have some time to cool down
Otherwise, I can only give you a few tips along the way
1. If you make a win and want to make a payout, then always let you pay out everything to the last cent. Leaving a little bit left over for gambling on the account will only lead to you being unnecessarily triggered again and when the win is gone, you will be inclined to cancel the deposit or make a new one, because you have to win again soon
2. If you have requested the withdrawal, then set yourself a deposit or turnover limit of 0 or 5 euros or so in the casino for the next few days, so that you can not gamble it away, even if you are tempted to cancel the withdrawal or deposit the win again. Sometimes you need a little help to maintain discipline and a little time to think about your decisions
Greetings Tim
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To explain it for you again, I just wanted a concession from the casino because of the misinformation and not because I gambled away the money and now somehow want it back. If I couldn't live with that, I wouldn't have deposited it. For me, this is also a bit of a matter of principle. It seems to me that casinos can afford anything. It just can not be that the employee is stupid and gets right in the end. I do not play only since yesterday in OCs ...
If YOU would NOT live in your one-dimensional bubble, you would also know that we as players are directly pilloried for the smallest mistakes or rule violations. Since the casinos act quickly and take every right out of what they have and quickly still can invent. The worst is still that one is put down by the support staff as stupid and said he knew nothing about it. In addition, any facts are twisted... Oh and the chat transcripts he has not sent me by chance of course, because there everything is black on white to see. It came yes not even ne insight or other in this direction. Normally, casino employees should be familiar with their casino and be able to provide the player with the information he needs when he needs it. If I would do my job like this, I would be unemployed in the next few weeks and would probably have to look for a job as a casino employee... maybe at Betsson.... Qualifications are probably not needed for that. But my good one, it's always easy to lecture someone and make one on "I am the reason in person", if one has not yet happened something like that. Of course, now you say that I'm wrong and that it has very well happened . On the Internet you are just anonymous and no one knows you really...how shitty you really are. So for you a perfect opportunity to build a facade and an imaginary "I" as you would like it. But who knows, maybe you are even the "poorest" guy of all of us
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About 12,000 times read that casino staff give the player misinformation bzgl. the withdrawal options and assures one that you can cancel and pay out with the desired Zahlunsgmethode? Yes sichi toto Keep this attendant for yourself, seems to be the "best" customer because he has already eaten a fool at you. Maybe you should get a few other supervisors here and there, it can only be helpful. And you talk about me living in a bubble my naive friend. I'm sure once it hits you, you'll be the one crying the loudest. As I said, you hide behind your avatar and pretend to be 100% someone you're not... you're probably much worse off than most people here
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That no one contacts you, I'm honestly not surprised at all. You are just one of those who simply get on the support's nerves. I'm a little older than you and I've played for money when you were still a wet dream of your parents. It doesn't help you one bit here, if you try to make one on thick Max. You're weak, you gambled away the money even though you wanted to pay it off. Now you're whining, nobody wants to read that here. So troll yourself and wipe your nose. Maybe you'll learn from it, you're still a youngster. See this as a lesson for life.
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I have not received any (as promised by support) transcripts of the Live Chat from on 10/10/19 and on 10/11/19 and furthermore my account has been suspended without giving any reason. I only received an email that I am currently no longer allowed to make deposits and bets. Now I have contacted the live chat again to ask why I can no longer access my account, I did not get any transcripts sent and whether the employee Alex would be there, as I would have liked to talk to him regarding the transcripts
Of course Alex was not available like last time, she said that my account was closed because the department had decided so and besides she had no access to the transcripts. Mhhh... find the whole thing quite strange as if one tries to cover up something with all force. Then came only "For further questions I should contact me after the lock on 16.1.2020"
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Ohhhhh... and I always thought wisdom comes with age. So you're proud that you've been gambling for money forever? Well then congratulations my dear! If you have achieved nothing else in life, that's something. Your parents or your family members must be really proud of you.... especially your creditors Weak is when you just take everything my witty Gamble colleague. I still don't give a shit about the money and I'm still concerned that it can't be that casinos can just get away with anything. You are the weakest person here, because you get off on the suffering of other people to put yourself in a better light but we both know that you are basically a very small light and a very poor soul. I think it's rather sad that at your age you have to fight with people in the forum or provoke people in the forum. I asked for opinions and not that you can insult and provoke me a bit on the fly Better a wet dream than an accident in the back seat
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